RyukyuRhymerso it seems that many here agree that there’s still a place for aircraft like the A-10 and Su-25 (how about Helicopter CAS?) even though weapons today have increased in their potency.
however.. from a political stand point.. will it still survive? CAS is always something that has higher casualty rates and perhaps politicians are unwilling to put money in that direction (although further development of UCAVs may change it somewhat)
RyukyuRhymersorry, I misread the article, here it is
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Apr/01/ln/hawaii804010365.html
it basically says that Hawaiian is seeking to acquire more 717s to do more of the inter island routes due to the void left by Aloha, but not that it wants to get the 717s from Aloha (which you guys have stated correctly, doesn’t exist).
but since the 717s don’t exist.. what are some possible alternatives for these island hops
RyukyuRhymerfor me personally, one of the biggest shock is how extreme the reactions are.
On one side, you got people thinking that there’s an active genocide going on in Tibet and that China is doing everything against them.
on the other end.. while we know there are quite a few Chinese who have extreme nationalism.. some of it is ridiculous. I’ve seen some advocating a new “cultural” revolution there, mass migrating “Han Chinese” to the region, etc.. things which would probably worsen the situation and make the Tibetans even angrier.
I’ve followed Tibetan history for a bit, mostly because there’s some parallels between Tibet and the Ryukyus. One of the most common things I’ve heard is that Tibet was always a part of China. The problem is “what is China?” the Mongols were the ones who went into Tibet and incorporated it with China, but never really ruled it directly (mostly in indirect means), let alone populate it. It was for the most part independent. At the time of course, many people didn’t consider the Yuan Dynasty as being Chinese, and there were quite a number of revolts..but some argue its Chinese now, and others argue that it isnt. The Manchu led Qing Dynasty (several centuries later) were the ones that really made more effort to conquer and control Tibet (again another Dynasty that is non-Han, but probably more likely to be agreed upon as a Chinese Dynasty).. but they never really populated it either and the control over the region weakened by the 20th century until the PRC established actual control over it. (either way, there was a beginning to this “control” so it is faulty to say “always”)
PRC’s control over the region is mixed. getting rid of the serf system is probably good (although its argueable the extent of how severe the serf system was and that whether Chinese and Western Values should be rightfully used to judge what the Tibetans do and value). However despite what the Dalai Lama has done or not do, its clear that they still admire him.
The cultural revolution saw alot of damage being done in Tibet and lots of cultural loss, but it also affected everywhere else, minority regions and non minority regions. Probably the biggest problem today is the income gap.. Tibet may have seen rising income, living standards, etc.. but the ratio is much lower than the rest of China. Out of all the minorities, Tibetans still are either dead last or near the bottom when it comes to literacy, life expectancy, etc. Its just that now the percentages are better, but they are still ranked in the same area.
some if it is due to its location.. no one really wants to live in an isolated, hard to reach area with a harsh climate, which is the major reason why its poorer than many other areas. Lately, the PRC certainly is making a big effort to spread this wealth gap as they know too that even if these poorer areas are rising, as long as the gap between them and the rich coastal area becomes bigger, the people in the poorer areas will still be unhappy.
however spreading this wealth over there will take alot of time, and perhaps not enough time to calm down any resentment.
Ultimately, its really up to the people living in Tibet what they want, not us non Chinese who live hundreds or thousands of miles away, or nationalistic Chinese who for the most part, don’t live in Tibet either.
there’s tons of kingdoms in the world that have been conquered. the US annexed Hawaii, but today most people there would rather stay in the US. But more importantly Hawaii independence groups exist and are tolerated. Greenland prefers to stay with Denmark, etc. Here in Okinawa, the Ryukyus was an independent Kingdom that got annexed by Japan, then became part of the US and back to Japan again.. many people here don’t really like Japan, but very few really want full independence.. and at the same time, there’s several Okinawan independence parties that are tolerated as well. If PRC’s efforts in Tibet are more positive than negative, then the government should have the confidence to allow such naysayers to say what they want as the majority won’t take them seriously such as the numerous “independence” groups that exist in the “West”.
RyukyuRhymerfor me personally, one of the biggest shock is how extreme the reactions are.
On one side, you got people thinking that there’s an active genocide going on in Tibet and that China is doing everything against them.
on the other end.. while we know there are quite a few Chinese who have extreme nationalism.. some of it is ridiculous. I’ve seen some advocating a new “cultural” revolution there, mass migrating “Han Chinese” to the region, etc.. things which would probably worsen the situation and make the Tibetans even angrier.
I’ve followed Tibetan history for a bit, mostly because there’s some parallels between Tibet and the Ryukyus. One of the most common things I’ve heard is that Tibet was always a part of China. The problem is “what is China?” the Mongols were the ones who went into Tibet and incorporated it with China, but never really ruled it directly (mostly in indirect means), let alone populate it. It was for the most part independent. At the time of course, many people didn’t consider the Yuan Dynasty as being Chinese, and there were quite a number of revolts..but some argue its Chinese now, and others argue that it isnt. The Manchu led Qing Dynasty (several centuries later) were the ones that really made more effort to conquer and control Tibet (again another Dynasty that is non-Han, but probably more likely to be agreed upon as a Chinese Dynasty).. but they never really populated it either and the control over the region weakened by the 20th century until the PRC established actual control over it. (either way, there was a beginning to this “control” so it is faulty to say “always”)
PRC’s control over the region is mixed. getting rid of the serf system is probably good (although its argueable the extent of how severe the serf system was and that whether Chinese and Western Values should be rightfully used to judge what the Tibetans do and value). However despite what the Dalai Lama has done or not do, its clear that they still admire him.
The cultural revolution saw alot of damage being done in Tibet and lots of cultural loss, but it also affected everywhere else, minority regions and non minority regions. Probably the biggest problem today is the income gap.. Tibet may have seen rising income, living standards, etc.. but the ratio is much lower than the rest of China. Out of all the minorities, Tibetans still are either dead last or near the bottom when it comes to literacy, life expectancy, etc. Its just that now the percentages are better, but they are still ranked in the same area.
some if it is due to its location.. no one really wants to live in an isolated, hard to reach area with a harsh climate, which is the major reason why its poorer than many other areas. Lately, the PRC certainly is making a big effort to spread this wealth gap as they know too that even if these poorer areas are rising, as long as the gap between them and the rich coastal area becomes bigger, the people in the poorer areas will still be unhappy.
however spreading this wealth over there will take alot of time, and perhaps not enough time to calm down any resentment.
Ultimately, its really up to the people living in Tibet what they want, not us non Chinese who live hundreds or thousands of miles away, or nationalistic Chinese who for the most part, don’t live in Tibet either.
there’s tons of kingdoms in the world that have been conquered. the US annexed Hawaii, but today most people there would rather stay in the US. But more importantly Hawaii independence groups exist and are tolerated. Greenland prefers to stay with Denmark, etc. Here in Okinawa, the Ryukyus was an independent Kingdom that got annexed by Japan, then became part of the US and back to Japan again.. many people here don’t really like Japan, but very few really want full independence.. and at the same time, there’s several Okinawan independence parties that are tolerated as well. If PRC’s efforts in Tibet are more positive than negative, then the government should have the confidence to allow such naysayers to say what they want as the majority won’t take them seriously such as the numerous “independence” groups that exist in the “West”.
RyukyuRhymernope, definitely the 717 🙂
RyukyuRhymerI was reading a newspaper saying that Hawaiian Airlines hopes to acquire some of the 717-200s that Aloha used to operate.. stating that they really like the type for inter island flights.. but that it is no longer produced and there is no alternative aircraft for them.
while introducing a new type will be costly, surely there are alternative aircrafts that are suitable for interisland flight yes?
RyukyuRhymerdid the 1.42 have an internal bay? I can’t find god shots of its belly. the Su-47 seemed to have what appeared to be doors that matched those on an internal bay..
would look not too bad with the right paint
RyukyuRhymerthe colors might look similar but the coating on the MiG-29K looks alot glossier while the one on the Sea Harrier above looks more drab.
Will India re paint it?
RyukyuRhymera link on Venezuelan Flankers not being new built
http://www.airfleet.ru/index.php?staid=1001024
RyukyuRhymernice helicopter. kind of reminds me of the Tiger in some ways. glad they went the `lighter` route instead of making something too big and like the Apache and Havoc
RyukyuRhymerWell here goes mine –
* F-22 A Raptor ( Because it is currently in a league of its own , combines stealth , supercruise IA and is a great tactical fighter)
* E/F typhoon ( It lacks stealth and maybe supercruise however a very well rounded overall fighter with good growth potential in the future)
* Rafale (Adaptability and the fact that none on this list are OMNI role 🙂 //Su-30MKI ( Agile , good eletronics and a brute ) – My personal fav out of all these as far as looks are concerned
* Jas-39 ( Good All round fighter)
* F-18E/F – Kick A$$ electronics and weaporny
This is on capability however i look more towards GROWTH POTENTIAL aswell therefore i dont include the latest vipers etc because in my opinion they dont have much growth potential left going forward . The EF , Rafale and MKI are close in capabilitiy however what prompted me to go for the EF and rafale were the potentially Lower cross sections , and the overall weapons system . The MKI is a kick a$$ fighter and very competitive against the EF and rafale but i still feel that the EF and rafale offer better overall product .
thanks! been looking forward to ur opinion, but am surprised that the F-35 isn’t on the list (or is it because its not really out yet). Also on growht potential, do u believe the Su-30 series is also reaching the peak of its growth potential as well? like the F-16F and F-15E, its rooted in an earlier design.
RyukyuRhymerafter reading around,
I’m curious to what “Bring It On”, “Jonesy”, and “Distiller”‘s opinion on the top 5 are 🙂
RyukyuRhymerIn another thread, some one mentioned a rumor that the RuAF plans to phase out all MiG-29s soon. anyone else heard the same thing?
RyukyuRhymerI like to see something like the Ching Kuo for an export market, but essentially, the F/A-50 is the Ching Kuo reborn with an F-404 engine.
if the CK was on the export market, how would China react if a country was to purchase it? I haven’t heard of Taiwan exporting any of their self made weapons outside.
RyukyuRhymerSo give it an F414 and support for Sparrow?
keep the existing engine as its questionable if the F414 can give proper thrust, let alone fit inside.. plus developing it to use a different engine will add to cost not cut it.
use a less thrilling radar, which may mean no AMRAAM but def no Harpoon or Slammer, but people buying J-7s, JF-17s, Golden Eagles, etc probably aren’t expecting to use such weapons on those aircraft either.
no CFTs or all the other additional bulges they put on the newer F-16’s fuselage, tail, etc
and you should have a cheap basic F-16 good for air policing. If a customer needed more capability, they probably have more money and can afford a block 52 or something.
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