Mark,
Did any of the surviving twenties Spitfires carried the legend ….. Spitfire on
their noses in combination with camouflage? Doesn’t seem like it was painted on just for the film I would think.
Just a thought.
Cees
thanks Mark,
my spelling is not what it used to be I see :p
Cees
Where’s the almost fifteen tons of Lancaster that was recovered by the RNethAF near Amsterdam and was donated to Wickenby. Shortly after wreckage was advertised for same on a website (this one Alan?) The Dutch AF is still miffed at not having gotten their (Her Majesty’s) transport crates back.
The recently recovered Hampden wreckage will be donated to Scampton, not history repeating itself I hope
Cees
Well, IIRC I read in an old FlyPast that this aircraft suffered an engine faillure and managed to glide back to base at an impresside gliding ratio.
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Cees
Isn’t this the one with the extreme gliding ratio?
Cees
Hasting WD492 is the aircraft on the Greenland ice cap, been there since Sept. 16th 1952 when in atrocious conditions supporting the British North Greenland Expedition it crashed near to the two tents of the Expedition at 8000 ft altitude! A USAF Albatross landed on the snow, without the use of skis and carried the three injured crew to safety using JATO and a run of nearly five miles before becoming airborne!
At Nicosia Cyprus in the early Sixties I had the opportunity to see Hastings from the OCU doing a bit of warmweather flying including the special landing which was the opposite of STOL more of a LTOL (Land Takeoff Land) for most of the main runway. The resident Hasting squadron No. 70 did not use that system showing that the Hastybird takes a bit of getting used to before being proficient in its handling!
I am surprised that the Halifax wallahs hav’nt had a sniff at the Greenland remains for a possible set of wings?Ray
Too cold for my liking, but if LW170 doesn’t come up I wouldn’t be surprised if Karl Kjarsgaard will put on snowboots.:p
Cees
Any current pics of her?
I know Rocketeer has some frames, what’s left?
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Cees
Those Ballioll seats look familiar, are they the same as Hurricane’s?
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Cees
Some more progress as of this morning. Elevator trim console and indicator now fitted and works:)
B-17 man, what a fantastic sight, wil the B24 grow into something similar?
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Cees
CD
The Hastings was developed from the Halifax during the war and used a new fuselage. First design was using Halifax wings and tail but later a single fin arrangement was decided upon. In a way it was the same way AVRO developed the York by using standard Lancaster wings and empennage.
The larger diameter fuselage of the Hastings/Hermes made some changes to the centresection near the flaps and the span of the intermediate wingsection between the inner and outer engines was wider. And the engine nacelles were underslung. Although the undercarriage was also Messier it used a slimmer casting so looks a bit unusual compared to the Halifax.
But apart from that the wings are exactly the same and even have the same partnumber prefix 57 being the Halifax. So a large part of the original Halifax design soldiered on into the seventies, well how about that.:)
I was told by Karl Kjarsgaard that a Hastings centre section was extant in a Malta scrapyard a few years ago.
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Cees
Cees, you promised the next set of Hastings wings would go onto the Hermes at Duxford !** 🙂
Oops, yes you are correct, Ok the second set will be butchered then
😮
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Cees
I wouldn’t trust myself with a Hastings as I would want to rob it of Ãt’s wings and turn them into a Halifax.
:p :p :p
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Cees
These engines are two of the better ones that I’ve seen recovered from the ground, alas for me the 20’s don’t have enough usable/interchangable parts to buy one, but I bet the cranks are straight, (especially in the first one)
;a good usable wheelcase must be worth £500 alone.
Stuart,
Recovered engines can be in unbelievable condtion. The engine we have on display in our museum (and is not available 🙂 ) is still fitted to the engine bearers, the complete firewall with all hoses, cables etc. still in place as well as the complete tubular mounting frame that was fitted to the outboard wing pick up point etc. The reduction gear is also missing on this one. With the wooden/resin props the chances of missing reduction gearing is much less.
Cees
Cees,
I’m interested though I’d need to be sure that it would yield usable parts for our ground runner such as (1) camshafts – surface rust acceptable but no bends or heavy dents or damage.
(2) Wheelcase (gear section between supercharger and main crankcase) – no significant damage i.e. component mounting flanges and main mating surfaces OK.
What happened to the reduction gear/propeller assemblies for these engines, are they a part of the deal? I presume these were excavated with the engines.Thanks,
Anon.
Anon,
Most Merlin engines I’ve seen that were recovered were missing the reduction gear as this broke away together with the prop on impact. This aircraft gave up it’s four engines and three props. All props are in use as monuments around the country (one as a memorial to Guy Gibson at Steenbergen as the aircraft came from 106 Sqn he was CO of at one point). The engines are straight and we have one wheelcase of the engine on show in our museum where the entire wheelassembly case can be turned easily by hand and the crankcase is dead straight.
Cheers
Cees
Well here are the photographs,
There are two Merlin 20-series from the same lancaster that were
recovered from clay and are in very good conditon. They can be used for a static restoration (absolutely not for airworthy use) the internals are also in very good nick. As is typical with Merlins the reduction gear has broken off and the carburetor is damaged or missing, but the latter are included. The top pics are of one engine and the bottom two are of the other. The latter pics are not very good as it is very dark in the temporary storage shed, but corrosion is superficial and non-existent on the first.
Price is 2.000 British Pounds each, so if you are still interested let me know and I will forward your requests to our board. The selection will be kept private and things will be handled carefully. Moderators, this is not a plug but purely aimed at providing a good home for these engines. Let me know if you approve or dissapprove.
Cheers
Cees