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July 9, 2007 at 6:20 pm in reply to: Anyone ID these A/C parts (different lot) #1248735

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I agree with Peter about the vent as used on Fraser Nash turrets.
The third is not from a Stirling, that one has tubular diagonal struts.
Could be either Lancaster main wing rib between the fuselage and inner
engine or B-17 warren truss spar section. Any more numbers?
Don’t you just love these questions?
🙂

Cheers

Cees

July 5, 2007 at 6:24 pm in reply to: Flap Indicator I.D. ???? #1250975

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Olivier,

Psst, don’t tell anyone.:eek:

You animal you:D 😀 😀

Cees

July 5, 2007 at 6:21 pm in reply to: RN Skua in Norway….WoW! (2007 story continues) #1250977

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Halifax NA337 was brought up from a depth of 750 feet using an ROV and
a special lifting device. If the suction is broken (which takes more force than the winching up itself) then the rest can be done slowly. That is the same plan they hope to use on LW170 which lies at a depth of about 1.000 metres.
Breaking the suction that grips the airframe to the bottom is the dificult part as well as finding out how many tons of silt or mud have collected in the airframe itself. But it has been done before so can be done again. All it takes is good planning and a professional team. The past has also showed how it should not be done.

I hope they succeed bringin her up. Now the Whitley in the Baltic to follow?

Cees

July 5, 2007 at 5:55 pm in reply to: Flap Indicator I.D. ???? #1251002

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Hey, I have one of those as well. Didn’t know that it’s Barracuda. Now all we need is an airframe to fit it in.
😀
Cheers
Cees

July 4, 2007 at 7:23 pm in reply to: RN Skua in Norway….WoW! (2007 story continues) #1252036

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Amazing pictures, just what more might lurk down there.
Barracuda’s, Stirlings, more Halifaxes, Beaufighters?
The list is mouthwatering.

Cheers

Cees

July 2, 2007 at 8:35 am in reply to: Westland Whirlwind Fighter #1255255

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Jerry,

You are correct, there is a Whirlwind AP at Kew. I’ve been through it and it’s a very nice piece of reference work showing all subassemblies.

Cheers

Cees

June 29, 2007 at 6:22 pm in reply to: RCAFM Museum – Halifax NA337 Interior #1257613

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Thanks Deryck,

Only dimensions and some sketches will suffice.

Cheers

Cees

June 29, 2007 at 6:19 pm in reply to: Westland Whirlwind Fighter #1257616

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Surprisingly, I have received more support than criticism, so I can’t complain:D The lottery would be best approached for match funding, so find half and they with match it (as opposed to them providing a match and torching the whole thing….). There are several other sources of funds providing the company can be made into an educational resource (which is easy), and we can prove that we are serious (which is difficult). Hangar space off airfield is not a problem, especially for the first few years while components are collected and items made (ie. tail assembly). All things considered, a static replical would be reletively easy to to…(all things are reletive)

The hardest part would be setting up a company to include certain approvals (EASA pt. 145 will probably cover aircraft below 5000Kg by then)

No matter what people say, good or bad. go for it. You know you can do it and the only way to find is to actually do it. You have the support of this whole board.

Cheers

Cees

June 29, 2007 at 9:49 am in reply to: Westland Whirlwind Fighter #1258215

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A sad fact of the Whirlwind was the large scale use of magnesium in their construction. Therefore anything in the groung wasn’t good for long!

When I did some research for the WIX-project (unfortunately stalled) at the National Archives at Kew it was stated in the manual that only the skinning of the rear fuselage was made of magnesium alloy. The rest using normal aluminium.
Oh and the rudder pedals are the same as used in the Lysander.

Cheers

Cees

June 28, 2007 at 2:02 pm in reply to: Aircraft turrets (any) #1259343

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Thanks for the heads-up Mark. I’ve been in contact with Jason Van Der Graaf who I believe is part of that project. They have most of the shell sections for their project and are in need of internal parts. I’ve agreed to share some of my spare internal parts for any extra shell sections but it looks as though they don’t have much left over. Hopefully we can work out a deal in the near future though.

Thanks again!

John

Jason van der graaf, nice Dutch name, Hmm wonder where his parents came from.:cool:

Cees

June 28, 2007 at 9:58 am in reply to: Aircraft turrets (any) #1259744

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Hello all,

First post so would just like to say hello to everyone and congratulations on a superb forum.

Posted here first as I’ve a turret question thats been bothering me. I realise that the vast majority of Lancaster turrets were FNs with various modifications happening to the rear turrets for the twin 0.5s (was the Rose turret a FN ?). However I thought that all MUG turrets in Lancs had a collar type mechanism that elevated the guns so making it impossible for the gunner to hit the rear tail. Looking at Just Jane the Lanc appears to have the regular FN turret but no collar type mechanism. Was the MkVii originally made without a dorsal turret and JJ has had one retrofitted without the collar ?

Steve

Hi Steve,

The Mk VII Lancaster was fitted with a Martin turret which was also located closer to the centre section because of CoG restrictions. Just Jane was fitted with a Martin turret but now has a FN150 cupola fitted without the taboo track (IIRC that’s what it was called).
The Rose turret was not a Fraser Nash design.
Cheers

Cees

June 28, 2007 at 9:54 am in reply to: Mystery Liberator nose 1960s #1259747

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Don’t forget Halifax PN323 that was scrapped apart from the cockpit in the early sixties.:eek:
We all have our own horrorstories don’t you think?
😀 😀

Cees

June 27, 2007 at 7:38 pm in reply to: ok, we have a vulcan… what next??? #1260296

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Well, I am already happy with this Stirling exhibit in Holland. BW Roger

Me too Roger,

When are we going to have a look at the JU-52 at K-wijk?

Cees

June 27, 2007 at 7:03 pm in reply to: ok, we have a vulcan… what next??? #1260325

Cees Broere
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Well said Cees.
What about the almost full length rear fusealge to cenre section of Stirling that was found in france? That should go towards recreatiing a full fuselage using the cockpit section new build.

Peter,

Unfortunately not, the frames are hacked off at floorlevel so you would have to replace all the formers, which would mean building a new fuselage (or splice some new sections into the formers, but I am not a restorer). Same happened to the substantial Dutch Stirling fuselage section. These sections survived by chance not because they were earmarked for restoration in the future unfortunately:o
Giuseppe and Peter visted Vraux to see the sections some years ago. I saw the Dutch Stirling bits a few years ago and altough very impressive, not possible to use right away. But who knows what happens in a decade or two.

Cheers

Cees

June 27, 2007 at 6:57 pm in reply to: Mohne Dam pics (23.06.2007) #1260333

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When I visited the Möhne dam in 2001 or 2002, I was suprised to see that the boards with the story of the Dams Raid were only in English and not in German. Is this still the situation?

Arjan,

Nee, nu ook in het Duits

Gr

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