??? News to me, Cees. I always thought the Halifax was designed with Vultures in mind, like the Manchester, but was switched to Merlins when the difficulties with the former were being realised. :confused:
Alan,
That was the HP56. The HP57 (the Halifax thus) was originally designed with Hercules engines in mind but as the Stirling had these too it was feared that there might be a shortage. The design work on the nacelles had been completed already when the Air Ministry ordered Merlins to be fitted, The design was not very well suited for the Merlins and as a result causing a lot of drag (which Harry Fraser Mitchell confirmed to me as well).
Sorry, get on with the Lancaster:D
Cheers
Cees
Maybe you should take some time to write a book;)
I had a large poster all about the Lancaster when I was a child (obtained from the Eastbourne air show) and it had a nice big pic of a B.II with the FN64turret.
I presume they took all the useful transferrable stuff off the B.II airframes turning them into empty hulks.
Am I right in thinking that the B.II didn’t have the same altitude or speed performance but was a bit more frugle on the fuel.
On a side note on different engines I remember seeing a picture once of a B17 fitted with four Allison V12’s. Looked like a very sleak customer.
Are you sure?
I would think they used them all up and scrapped the rest after the war. At least one was used as a testbed for jetengines.
There were only about 300 built (DS-serial range from the top of my head), The Hercules engines were thirstier but the climb was greatly improved. Don’t know about speed though as I would think the radial had more built in headwind.
Apart from that the Lanc was designed with underslung nacelles whereas the Halifax was designed origninally for radials which suited the Hercules extremely well.
Cheers
Cees
AFAIK (but there are Lancaster experts on this forum) there were some external differences such as a deeper bombardier blister (the Mk I had a shallower blister), a different pitot tube position, later Lancs also had blister windows behind the sliding window’s, paddle bladed props etc.
This hower is a snake pit as a lot of the earlier Mk’s were modified accordingly with S-Sugar at the RAF Museum being a good example. I doubt it if a good explanation can be given.
Cheers
Cees
yes, and the flight engineers position. If for the time being I have to make something like the mock up at Elvington, then so be it. The shell is the least of my worries.
Cees
You seemed all geared up to do the full thing with all the panels etc?
Peter,
Yes, I was. but then the floor was pulled from beneath me. I decided to take control of my project. The plans are still for a whole cockpit but for the time being I will continue in the attic on a smalle scale but still keep working on components. The majority of the internal fittings etc is finished so only the shell will be postponed for now.
Something I hadn’t expected to happen but then again you are never sure what next day will bring.
Cheers
Cees
Hi Andy,
Thanks, that was the site I was also looking for.
Cheers
Cees
If you were SG would you even CARE what people are saying on aviation forums? I know I wouldn’t.
Nor would I but I would be less open about what I was doing. When touring the TFC the staff is always friendly and seem to enjoy talking to visitors. Also a lot of aircraft types have passed the hangar doors creating a lot of diversity.
Therefore SC is one of the worlds leading warbirds collectors.
Hip hip hurray!
Cees
My thoughts exactly, I do not know how SG has made his money nor do i have any wish to know thats none of my business. I am just glad i have had the chance to see many Warbirds through the Fighter Collection that i never would have seen flying otherwise, Aircraft such as P-38,P-39,P-63, Hawk,P-51c,Hellcat,Wildcat,Bearcat etc, That i am eternally grateful for. We are lucky to have such a great collector in the UK.
I feel Stephen Grey is like all of us that collect just on a grander scale, You collect for the affection or intrest you have for what you are collecting not the money, If you thought about the money you probably would not collect at all.
Which makes you wonder if Mr Grey had actually bought his first warbird if he knew that so many people were discussing his toys. But then again, there was no internet in those days:D
Cheers
Cees
Thanks Tony,
I had been thinking about your photographic skills. These are fine as it shows what can be achieved.
Your son seems to be a very sensible child:D
Cees
Handley Page Halifax B Mk III cockpit reproduction (HP57)
Sorry to say chaps that this project has stalled at the moment. Ik will continue at a new location but it won’t be a full blown cockpitsection as I intended. New plans are that only the pilot’s cockpit will be made (with a possibility the flight engineers position will be made as a seperate unit)
******:(
Cees
Is it possible to convert a Meteor engine into a Merlin? I mean fitting a Merlin reduction gear to drive the propeller etc.?
Cheers
Cees
The situation over here is that we only need to have the consent of the Landowner to recover a wreck. In this case we do it only if the wreck is known not to contain missing crewmembers or live ordnance other than small calibre ammunition. In any other case we contact the local mayor and take it from there. Usually this results in the wreck being recovered by the Dutch Air Force where we cooperate. After the recovery the wreckage is usually handed over to our organisation for sorting out. This works very well to our mutual benefit. We don’t have to have a license from the UK as this is Dutch soil and the aircraft has been struck off charge.
In the past some civil servants have tried to claim that the wreck was still property of the Crown but when we mentioned that we would agree but would send an invoice over for the recovery costs, it became awfully quiet at the other end.
Cheers
Cees
Beautiful, but why taking the trouble to get one from Russia and selling it when finished and they get another one. Mind you, it’s great to see one finally coming to Europe.
So a formation with a Hawk 75, Tomahawk and Warhawk is a great possibility.
Hurray for TFC
Cheers
Cees
Hi Peter,
Well, the project is going very well. In the last few weeks we have completed the engine control box which is fitted behind the pilot’s bulkhead. It’s a very complicated assembly and it has been made according to the drawings and is practically indistinguishable from a wartime one. We are now concentrating on the pilot’s chassis which is almost ready in component form so in the coming weeks we can start assembling it. When that is completed we can fit the pilot’s seat (almost finished), the various trim consoles, the throttle box trunk, control wheel and rudder pedals. By that time I will post some pics to show what it looks like. The aim is to build something HP would be proud of:D
Thank heavens the drawings are available otherwise it would be very difficult.
Cheers
Cees
No, something that is fitted in the wireless operators position. I remember seeing it near the T1154
Cees