An Art Deco treat, Swifter. Oh for unlimited cash!
LOL – I know what you mean Ian. I have many records of actual sales over the last 10 years. Prices vary tremendously for this yoke (sans cap) — from $760us to $3700 !! If this combo sells for less than $1800 the buyer will have gotten a fairly good buy. š®
In case of interest….B29 yoke and cap on Ebay:
Swifter
I have just purchased a vintage B8 grip (via the e-vil medium, as you do), that was made by ‘ phaostron’, for me at least unknown company but, a little light ‘googling’ led to this: http://www.phaostron.com/replacement.html Could be an alley worth trying for the triggers? Martyn
Thanks for the trigger lead Martyn. Will check it out…
P38 v B45 Yoke
Very very similar to B45 Tornado………….
Hi Gabby:
The configuration of the late model P-38 yoke is indeed similar to that used in the B-45 Tornado. And the yoke used in the B-45 was identical to that used in aircraft as varied as the Douglas A-26 Invader, Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon, Northrop P-61 Black Widow, Convair R3Y Tradewind and last but certainly not least…the Northrop B-35 Flying Wing before they were converted into B-49s.
Swifter
Pinkie P-38 Yoke
Hello Swifter, the P38 yoke was a serious acquisition! What did it look like under the paint and did it still have the ‘bomb’ button attached? I fear there are a lot more grips around than triggers.
Hi Ian:
Thatās a hellofa trip for your sight control grip; a little like flying from New York to Philadelphia via London! :confused:
As is turned out, āPinkieā had a coat of white paint beneath the pink. I had to use a fairly strong paint stripper, very carefully, to minimize chemical reaction with the grips and original hard rubber coating. The modified Guardian B5 grips used on a P-38 yoke have the same cross-hatch pattern on the sides that all such grips have. The one disappointment was that I simply couldnāt get all the paint of the cross-hatch valleys. And that small bit of remaining paint has a red (not pink) tinge to it. And thatās OKā¦.looks kinda neat.
I think this yoke came from an operational aircraft as the grips had some surface wear to them. But the hard rubber coating was in surprisingly good shape with no cracking/splitting anywhere. There is only one small area, on the back of the right stalk, where a very small piece of coating is missing. Itās so minor Iām not going to repair it. The āBOMBSā button is still there and operational but only the OMB letters are discernible anymore. Overall, this yoke is now in nice shape and just needs triggers.
I think youāre absolutely right about there being far more grips out there than triggers. So my goal is to find a couple of clapped-out ugly grips that still have triggersā¦.and that can be bought cheaply; you know, once hell freezes over. :dev2:
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Fly.Buy, thanks for sharing that link….much appreciated.
Bit of Help
Gentlemen:
Yesterday I completed (as far as I can for now) the refurbishment of a late model P-38(J or later) yoke I bought about a month ago on Ebay. Yes, it’s the pink one noted on this thread. It came out nicely but I need a couple of Guardian B5 or B6 type triggers to complete the restoration. Yeah, I know it’s a long shot, but…..do any of you know of a source for just the triggers? I’ve already tried a couple of stateside places – no luck. I know I could buy and cannibalize a couple of grips….but I’m trying to avoid that route. I’ll follow up on any recommendations.
Thank you all…and I hope each of you has grand plans for New Year’s Eve with family and/or friends and has a fine 2016 !
Swifter
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Was conversing with a frequent contributor to this thread recently about yokes that certainly look like one thing…but are they that thing? The auction item in Ian’s link looks like a DC-3 yoke…indeed it might be. But the mounting provision (hole) is too small….at least compared to what I’m familiar with. Case in point is the photo of my DC3/C47 wheel and it’s mounting provisions on the control head. Note the more robust mounting and double woodruff key. As far as I know, all DC3s/C47s were provided with this mounting from the factory. If a forum member knows otherwise I surely would enjoy being enlightened.
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Of course, the unanswered question then becomes: If not a DC3 or other aircraft application, what would a yoke with this kind of mounting be used for?
Relative to shipping old yokes/grips from the US to England and continental Europe: If you find an item you want to buy from a US site and the seller doesn’t want to ship overseas….I’d be happy to ship the item to you. The obvious logistic of getting the item to me so I can ship to you would have to be overcome….but that’s minor. Just thought I’d offer. I live in the middle of the country and am an avid yoke collector.
And it’s serendipitous that this is post #1049. One of the most classic yoke designs belongs to one of the most classic aircraft designs…the 1049 Connie!
Take care all:
Nick
The only B5 that can be, (as far as I am aware) attributed to a particular type are the ones fitted to the P39/63 which have the word ‘cannon’ etched below the button on the top of the grip, unless of course someone can elaborate further and elude to other peculiarities of this nature?
I also echo Tony’s statement above, museums are not the definitive answer to prove a point either, as many exhibits will originally be stripped upon receipt and take many years of sourcing replacement equipment to achieve display standard. However, I accept that is not always the case and I am sure some exhibits are indeed as complete as national security will allow.
Hello Gents:
I’ll echo the thoughts expressed in some of the most recent posts here….on our sharing of knowledge in this yoke/grip collecting hobby. An excellent example is GYD’s informative bit about the etched “CANNON” at the base of the button of B5s used on the P39/P63. It’s the first time I’ve heard of that. In a tongue-in-cheek fashion I’ll take his (similar peculiarities) challenge and mention the two Guardian Electric grips used on the late model P38 yokes–no mistaking those two B5s.
Swifter
Gentlemen:
Just wondering whether one of the members of this forum might have a VC-10 yoke they would be interested in parting with?
Thank you:
Nick
Hello all:
I recently got lucky on Ebay, finding this very early Boeing yoke for which I was the only bidder. The seller didn’t know what it was…thus his search terms weren’t too good. It’s likely from a B-17, an E model or earlier. Or possibly from one of the few Boeing 307 airliners that were made. The hole in the 2 O’clock spoke suggests this came from the co-pilot’s side.
Nick
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Is that a newly cast trim switch on the left handle or one from the spares box? Nice to represent such an unusual aircraft, and odd where these things turn up!
Good catch Ian. I knew that a friend and fellow collector of control wheels in California had a C-124 yoke in his collection. So I sent him some photos of mine. Unbeknownst to me, he had a spare, used C-124 MIC/IC switch. One day not long ago I opened a package in the mail and there was this switch! A very gracious gesture. I believe the use of this switch assembly is unique to the later C-124s. Had “Tom” not been so kind I would have had to fabricate the switch head.
LOL….yeah, it used the same maroon cap as the “spare” you acquired from me last year Darrell. Guess I should have hung onto it…. :confused:
After
This C-124C yoke (earlier versions of the aircraft used the same yoke as the DC-4/DC-6) is the only one I’ve ever encountered on Ebay over the last 10 years. The goal with the refurbishment was to re-coat areas of the yoke that needed it (about 40% of it’s surface area), but to not over restore it. I wanted it to look it has seen use. So here are the “After” shots:
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