Gentlemen:
Just thought I would share some before and after (restoration) photos of the Douglas C-124C Globemaster control yoke I bought on Ebay several months ago. Surprisingly enough (to me), the seller was in England! First, the before shots:
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Jabba:
Thank you again for excellent photo above. I heard back from the Swedish Air Force Museum too. They supplied a couple of very good illustrations from a maintenance manual. It appears that earlier production aircraft had essentially the same yoke but without the spring-loaded folding feature. They stated Saab built 62 B-18As and 119 examples of the B-18B from 1942-1949.
Jabba:
Thank you for contacting your Swedish friend and coming up with the identity of the B18 aircraft. I have not been able to find any photos of the cockpit of this plane, specifically of the control wheel, online. But I’ve written and sent photos to the Swedish Air Force Museum, with a request to confirm my yoke/wheel is from a Saab B18. Hopefully they will be able to provide a photo or two of a B18 control wheel installed in the aircraft. Next will be for me to learn something of the history of the aircraft. At the moment I suspect this yoke is of WWII, not later, vintage. The main reason is that the autopilot switch on the right stalk/grip is identical to the switch mounted on the beautiful HE-111 yoke pictured on the cockpitinstrumente.de site.
I’m anticipating that overall production of the Saab B18 was fairly low and that few of the control wheels survive outside of the aircraft in museums. As an avid yoke/wheel collector, this one makes a very nice addition to my collection.
Nick
Jubba:
Thank you for weighing in! I’ll check out the website you mentioned. I’m looking forward to finding out what kind of aircraft this yoke/wheel was used in.
Given the thumb switch on top of the right stalk is the same as used on the HE-111, it’s suggestive of it being of the WWII era. And since there is a trigger switch behind that (trigger itself is broken off), I’m wondering if the SIKTE switch might have been a gun-sight activation switch. Hope to find out soon…..
Ian, Darrell, Martyn….thank you all. I got lucky and found it soon after it was listed. I too spend too much time “grazing” Ebay.
As info to you, the digits “217” are also on the He-111 yoke I mentioned above. Thus I don’t think those particular digits reflect the aircraft mounted in. The suggestion of the yoke grips retracting for emergency purposes is very plausible. What looks like a small cylinder at the bottom center of the yoke is actually an adjustable spacing device to keep the grips in place. it has the remains of a cable-lanyard still attached to it. Would not surprise me if the design concept was; in emergencies, a good yank on the lanyard (probably attached to the flight suit) pulled the spacer out and the grip springs then smartly folded the grips. Just some speculation….
I’ll be doing some more research this weekend….time permitting, to reveal this yoke’s origin.
Gentlemen of the Forum:
Good fortune befell me last week and I bought the yoke in the following photos on ebay, very shortly after it appeared. I know it’s WWII German. And the switch assembly at the top of the right stalk is the same as that used on the HE-111 wheel that sold on ebay about 6 weeks ago. Both stalks/grips look like they’re designed to swivel to some extent. It’s not evident why. Also, on the backside of the right stalk/grip a third switch assembly includes a housing for a trigger switch and trigger. The trigger is broken off. I’ve searched photos of many Heinkel, Dornier, Arado and Junkers aircraft but have not yet found a match for this yoke. Do any of you have an idea of what aircraft this yoke/wheel mounted to?
The following appears on the top of part of the switch on the right stalk:
LGWL Rg 9 Fl 22567
127 – 217 A …. ʄ … w ….W Nr.
………………………….G
The G below the W actually has an L going through it. And this symbol ʄ is as close as I could get to the “integral” symbol with a capitol H through the middle of it. The last photo is of the HE-111 yoke on the German yokes site. The top of the switch assembly on the right stalk of my yoke is (almost) identical to the top of the right stalk switch of the 111 yoke. I wanted to get photos up here quickly but I’m having issues with my own camera…so I used the ebay photos…..which are not ideal. Will get some better pics up here once I figure out what is wrong with the focus on my camera. As always, thank you for any help you provide…
Nick
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The exact number built escapes me but I think it was less than 20 that were built.
My records show 17 aircraft produced.
Nick
To me it’s always good to see when eBay throws up something rare or unusual, as you never know what’s out there!
I completely agree Rob. As my collection has expanded that has become more difficult to do though. Now I’m (slowly) trying to acquire some of the more collectible European yokes and the prices on some of them have gone through the proverbial roof. Witness the beautiful HE-111 yoke and CF-105 grip assembly that each recently went for thousands of dollars. 😮 And the beat goes on…………….
Yokes not really my area but, I did open the bidding on it with a modest ceiling as it was a 99p start!! It has a very airliner-esque appearance to it but, as to what, no idea :apologetic:
Gin Ye Daur & Hawker: That yoke came out of a later variant of the Douglas C-124 Globemaster…a bulbous and very successful outgrowth of the DC6. In fact, early versions of the aircraft used the same yoke as the DC4 and DC6. Generally the C-124 doesn’t have the cachet or recognition of some other aircraft. And not that many were built. I don’t know the production figures offhand, but I would guess that less than half of the production run used this yoke design. Combine that with its (shall we say) portly/homely appearance and it’s not difficult to see why few components made it out of the scrappers’ yards. In 10+ years of collecting yokes, this is the first one I’ve seen on Ebay. It went for a steeper price than I had hoped….but it was no surprise as at least two of the bidders (besides me) were knowledgeable collectors. So I knew if I wanted it I would have to ante-up. I’ll have some fun restoring it.
Swifter
The photo is of the cockpit of a C-124C.
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Hi Phil:
Whoever did that freehand lettering did a relatively decent job of it. If you do decide to go with the dry transfer decals for the switch lettering, I would retain the painted arrows that are currently on your yoke for the trim switch. And your yoke is of the pre-B52G configuration…most likely from a “D” model.
can you identify the model from it? You can see the white ‘tippex’ text is ruining the generally reasonable condition. I’ll be taking Ian’s advice as soon as I get a chance to get some really fine grade paper. Whether I replace it with transfers I’ll wait and see how I feel. If you are still happy to gift the ‘STRATOFORTRESS’ lettering, I’d be massively grateful…
Leave me a PM with your address and I’ll send you the STRATOFORTRESS lettering along with the application instructions.
Nick
Anyway, the question I have to the assembled masses is, what would you reccommend to remove the white paint from the original (I think) black coating?
Hello Phil; allow me to add my welcome too. I’m a relative newbie myself, having joined about a year ago. As I’m sure you found in your reading…there is much knowledge on this site. Thanks for that CF-105 auction link! I recently read Murray Peden’s excellent “Fall of an Arrow”. Ian is right on point with his analogy to TSR2.
Could you post a couple of shots of your B-52 yoke? There are actually four diffenent yokes that were used in B52s (that I know of). The most common is that used on aircraft before the “G” model. As it happens, amongst the yokes I’ve restored there have been a couple of B52s. I’ve attached a photo of my restored “D” model yoke. All the engraved lettering in the thick coating on my yoke had been obliterated. I replaced it all with “dry transfer” decals available from http://www.woodlandscenics.com . It’s tedious working with the small letter decals and you’ll likely be doing some 2-3 times. But it can be done. As you can see, the STRATOFORTRESS lettering was also replaced. I happen to have an extra set of the STRATOFORTRESS lettering….and you are welcome to it (freebie !) if you decide to restore your yoke.
Good Luck with the yoke!
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“One other site I must share with fellow members is this incredible man cave I came across on the net, scroll down the web page and enjoy!”
That website is a nice find Darrell. Lots of neat “stuff”. You have to wonder sometimes though, about when is enough…enough.
RobbieSmurf, that’s a fine looking center cap. Have not seen one of those before. What’s the diameter?
Avro Anson control column, Mk1 Canadian I guess?
The exact same column/yoke sold for 1/3 the current asking price in May, 2011. Must be inflation :highly_amused: Going back many years, Anson yokes just haven’t fetched high prices.
Swifter
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Regarding your ‘dancing girls’ B52 yokes, I raise you ‘courting swans’ F111 sticks, now sporting fancy bases. Also similarly erected P51 column. The holiday hasn’t been entirely wasted. Finally, the top of B26 Marauder column, just needing the yoke. I’m not holding my breath for one of them.
Hi Ian: Whilst the aircraft we’re collecting components from had very serious war/conflict oriented missions; such human constructs also had their moments of humor amid the terror. And I loved the humor of your….courting swan F-111s versus my “Ta daaa !” B52 yoke shot last year.
I’ve attached a photo the B26 Marauder yoke in my collection. If you’re really interested in obtaining a B26 yoke (wheel only), I know a gent in Washington state who might consider selling one of his. He’s a collector and knows the values of various yokes. If you’re interested I can contact him to see if he still wants to sell one.
Nick
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