Which is more than encouraging to say the least. Perhaps Cold War military holds more interest than passe airliners. Or maybe it’s geographical….
Have you also got a handful waiting in the wings for the day your “older” members take to the rocking chair?
Geographical? Near Cambridge and half an hour from north London? Easy access via major motorway? Hardly bumpkin territory LOL.
At the end of the day if everyone stands back and says they ‘haven’t got the time’ (like the ‘friend’ you haven’t heard from for six months who says he/she’s been really busy and hasn’t had the time to pick up the phone..) then OK but don’t expect these things to be here by the expedition of the magic museum fairies or the pixies because they just won’t be!!
That’s a great shame. If I didn’t live 100mls away I’d be on their books just as an extra pair of hands. The irony is that when I lived much closer I had little or no spare time and certainly not enough to make committments to people. Now I have but can’t. Perhaps the youngsters are less keen on volunteering as their calendars are busy with too much else…..:(
It’s astonishing the times I hear the ‘haven’t got the time’ thing – yet DAS asks for no more than one day a month. Say six hours? – about two evenings’ telly for most people.
Haven’t got the time translated really means haven’t got the will in the vast majority of cases.
I know it’s been discussed before and the question of ownership (DAS v IWM) is relevant but this is a significant airframe and a way should be found to get it under cover. I believe it’s the oldest turboprop airliner in existence and is a good example of a “British” success in that 444 were built and sold. It is also a natural fit with the Comet 4 and Concorde in Airspace. I’d swap it for the Hastings and put that in the space left by the Varsity
Hastings is IWM Viscount is DAS so will be a cold day in hell before that happens unfortunately.
I think DAS need congratulating for their work in restoring and maintaining all their airliners. Most museums, understandably, tend to concentrate on smaller, more manageable and mainly military aircraft and it is to their credit that they have continued to maintain the collection when faced with all the difficulties of keeping them outside.
In one way it is great to see them outside as it does mean you can stand back and take in their size and beauty but at the same time there must be a limit to the amount of time they can spend outside before it becomes impossible to stop the decay so let’s hope they get a roof over their heads at some time.
Will never happen.
The presence of the airliners is tolerated by the IWM and no more (despite the fact what became DAS was at the airfield before the IWM).
What DAS needs is conservation volunteers to keep on top of the workload.
Number of volunteers has dwindled over the years as people seem more and more self-centric and unwilling to contribute to a common cause (which is basically the case and the cause of said dwindling).
There are very few DAS volunteers under 40 – which speaks volumes about a shift in our society as it does about the conservation of old aeroplanes.
Edit to add: witness the Herald to see effects of a chronic lack of conservators and also the effects of running a 40K annual deficit. Anyone out there who knows of potential sources of corporate sponsorship (or wealthy benefactor) for the British Airliner Collection please step forward!
“fairwell and adieu, you ladies of Spain” – chomp!
Andy;
D1566;
Yes! Ian Allan was still going last I heard.
Regards;
Steve
Is he? Good!
I joined ‘Transport Trackers’ for one pound in 1977 as an expectant 10 year old and was most disappointed not to receive the benefits promised with membership of said institution.
I reckon with inflation Dr. Allan owes me a fiver at least.
Actually no. Being a FoD I have paid my entrance for all 365 days (Airshows apart)
Have you?
Moggy
Yup. Pay to be a member of DAS and also give of my time restoring the airliners and stewarding, which is what I was doing when I heard the last post last Sunday.
You only got some pics of Cosford for your birthday? You poor beggar.
Indeed, but they seemed quite keen on using the field gun to mark the start, not a bad idea in a vast space like Duxford Aerodrome. In its way it was quite symbolic – The guns fell silent.
But they also used the artillery piece to mark the end. There was no Last Post sounded at all. 😡
Had they used a recording of the call at the end, it would have been doubly appropriate since as things turned out it would have been echoing around Duxford at the same time as it was sounding right across the country.
Moggy
Well I was inside Airspace and I heard a rendition of the last post!
Anyway – you got in for free so stop whining!
Just a quick reminder that next (remembrance) Sunday it’s free entry at Duxford.
At least that saves it going the same way as the Me163, Ju52 and Storch. The best that could have been hoped for is that it would sit as a part-restored heap on the floor like the Bf109E (will they ever finish painting that cowling?)
Errr..do you mean the BF109 in the BoB hangar that’s been deliberately only restored on one side to show the state it was in when it was recovered?
Go to your average static museum and all you will see are dusty old aircraft huddled together, cheek by jowl, inside some dark barn like building or hangar or sat outside slowing rotting away.
If they’re dusty and rotting away that’s usually due to lack of funds or volunteers.
Ref: The DAS Herald.
If you give money, time or both then you have the right to moan.
If you do neither then you forgo that right! And saying ‘I pay to enter the museum’ doesn’t cut it because that’s an equitable exchange.
Crikey
I was there in 1996 and this MiL was then set up as a cafe in the back! Sad end…
Can’t have the state picking up the tab! That’s horrible, nasty socialism!!
Oh – unless it’s handouts for banks in which case a healthy dose of socialism’s fine.
No in the future foreseen by Gideon and his rich, chinless pals everything will be turned over to the private sector and you’ll fund your care by investing in the stockmarket (overlooking the three major crashes the global markets have suffered in a decade – we don’t talk about those) with the shares you’ve bought from your savings pot built up by working at 7 quid an hour.
Can’t have the state picking up the tab! That’s horrible, nasty socialism!!
Oh – unless it’s handouts for banks in which case a healthy dose of socialism’s fine.
No in the future foreseen by Gideon and his rich, chinless pals everything will be turned over to the private sector and you’ll fund your care by investing in the stockmarket (overlooking the three major crashes the global markets have suffered in a decade – we don’t talk about those) with the shares you’ve bought from your savings pot built up by working at 7 quid an hour.