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August 26, 2023 at 1:13 am in reply to: is this an RAF type seat? #750694

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Hi All,

I have had a mooch on the web and to be honest next to nothing only one possible lead that you will have to follow up personally in below links.

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/seating/chairs/world-war-ii-bomber-chairs/id-f_78076/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=contact&utm_campaign=MCMD-BUYER-CONFIRMATION&emailToken=50483632_e-20e7495680395036a2367adc72d0410c92a06101883ae8931a6f109ba9eecff1

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/seating/chairs/world-war-ii-bomber-chairs/id-f_78076/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=contact&utm_campaign=MCMD-BUYER-CONFIRMATION&emailToken=50483632_e-20e7495680395036a2367adc72d0410c92a06101883ae8931a6f109ba9eecff1

( Above link you will need to scroll down to the chairs, Underneath picture click on [ Item Details ] which more than likely will not help but have a look and see there may be another clue )

Geoff.

August 26, 2023 at 12:09 am in reply to: Beaufighter Restoration #750706

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Hi All,

BF6:- You state that the later Mk’s of Hercules are very different and cannot be used, I being from a non engineering background ( Looking at it purely from a black and white prospective & I dare say Rose tinted glasses also :- ) the later produced Hercules engines are simply more advanced / developed in however many ways of the original Mk you specifically require.

Could you not back engineer from those late improved Hercules to something that could represent the correct Mk of early Hercules simply by taking these advances off whatever engine you decide to try it with ?

( IMPO from a layman’s point of view I imagine that engines still have a lot of commonality for each subsequent follow on Mk or have I got it wrong and they completely alter the engine very significantly each time they improve them for those Mk’s ? )

If achievable would you not end up having an engine of a similar appearance to the early Mk Hercules that would do the job ? Or at least until the correct engine become more widely available and that is not to mention any spares you would require.

Rather than say trying to engineer a workaround to fit those later Mk’s on the airframe, could not these back engineered engines be a viable alternative ? I imagine them also having both the same pro’s and cons of both early and late Mk Hercules or would the cost of such an undertaking be to prohibitive ?

Having said all the above has anybody ever before costed this as an alternative and if it was possible then dismissed it as to expensive ? If not could you not just put it forward to all potential operators across the globe or at least current operators who have projects on the go ? You would all benefit and any cost would be spread amongst you all.

As an idea for a feasibility study into just what would be required to complete this theory is it not worth a shot ? If indeed it could be done given money was no object to have an authentic looking Airworthy Beaufighter with Hercules engines as a possible last gasp when there are no correct Mk Hercules engines currently available.

IMPO it’s a good last ditch back up plan for all to be involved with, after all you are all in the same business and all fighting for what few genuine parts etc. etc etc. are available worldwide that are getting fewer and fewer ?

Finally what about crash sites where the crew survived, the aircraft was left in situ but deemed non recoverable ? ( i.e. The Black Widow project that was deemed at first just a pipe dream and now look at it.)

Geoff.

August 23, 2023 at 7:36 pm in reply to: Beaufighter Restoration #750740

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Hi All,

BF6 – I suppose you have already been in touch these guys below in Australia ?

Peter Brook and Historical Aircraft Engines

What about those copies made by Snecma for the North Noratlas ? after all they bagged four for the Halifax or are they of a different variation of the Hercules ?

Interesting article from key.aero from 2018, could give you some ideas of potential surviving engines if they are any good ?

https://www.key.aero/article/noratlas-rugged-and-reliable

Also came across this ad below from EBay and although two years old and no trace or mention since, you never know may be worth a punt ? after all you have nothing to lose.

https://aerodynamicmedia.com/bristol-hercules-engines-for-sale/

Here’s an out the box suggestion:- What about approaching owners who have restored ground running examples you make offers with a very, very good incentive ?

Those that may possibly be able to restore further to full airworthiness condition bought you could offer an incentive with the aircraft owners permission. A flight in the Beau when completed or similar, you could even offer helping restore another for them to ground run in its place ? The way I see it is that you both come out winners!

Apart from that I can only think that as a group of like minded people you all come together with the common goal of seeing an airworthy Beaufighter. As long as you have no major issues with each other the knowledge is there to produce what missing parts you need or make copies from non airworthy whatever.

Aircraft Enthusiasts/Aero Engine Engineers/Aircraft Restoration specialists working as one can make all this work by putting egos difficulties aside IMPO.

EDIT:- What about old airfield dumps ? I know,I know probably been mentioned over the times but hey you never know, rather than some amateur doing it what about the official route with some decent official backing ? surely there must be somebody who can assist ?

Geoff.

August 18, 2023 at 12:08 am in reply to: Beaufighter Restoration #750815

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Hi All,

BFVI:- Try these guys you never know may even have links that you don’t ?

https://bristol-hercules.co.uk/about-us/

Why not try the Halifax 57 project they are scouring the sea beds for they’re project, I would think that they would have managed to salvage a few engine components as spares ? http://www.57rescuecanada.com/

I would also imagine Kermit Weeks as another source ? Why not ask the RAF Museum if you can have their engines and swap them for your reconditioned ?

Also just found this on EBay:- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114029034216?hash=item1a8ca8fae8:g:dgEAAOSwCH9eAO1p&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0MDbvEZHoPXgeQYnEyMvnC8B8EXscKQI%2B%2BlyRJ%2FHec6vIGmH9fbP0M1QiXe90C3hLad1IM8cdRNu%2FEWQzl2LGSafg8yJMHs%2Fclo55Rh7lFvX3RzGNb1l%2B9n2CpRkYjDbZTmazde8oQ4Hib9Ya87UeatJJAlU%2F707S%2BwH2SfUzQcRWNdXH7mXuF%2BYw8J2GJdZRTxdTeefs9Q1lBhYKECQbHopb2maF3tB7ZaiiX96gcglttkxrdujivkHsfeYAwOtn8jyZqyYsoYyRaN2lqAeF3U%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-STs93AYg

Geoff.

August 15, 2023 at 2:20 pm in reply to: D-Day: Prof. Fred Shotton's modified Photo Reccon Mosquito #750868

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Hi All,

BFA :- No problem just trying to help out where I can if possible. :- )

Geoff.

August 15, 2023 at 2:18 pm in reply to: Beaufighter Restoration #750870

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HI All,

I don’t know if any of the following is any use to you but I came across this site that may be of help and have emailed requesting information on your quest, you never know may yield something ? https://aerospacebristol.org/archives

Other possible helpful sites from the link above ?

https://www.bristolmuseums.org.uk/bristol-archives/

https://aerospacebristol.org/archive-blog

collections@aerospacebristol.org. ( Possible contact ? )

https://ukaeroarchives.wordpress.com/

Thinking outside the box why not try contacting other Beaufighter operators ?

Australia / Canada / Dominican Republic / Isreal / New Zealand /US / Turkey / Sth Africa / Portugal – ( Courtesy of Wiki ) After all I imagine that if they had all the manuals supplied with the aircraft if operated overseas even if they used them or not say just for training purposes / Museums Restorations ?

Geoff.

August 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm in reply to: Do217 hood?? #751005

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Hi All,

Halilanc1 –  If you can get his contact info this chap may be of some use to you :- https://www.youtube.com/@WW2HistoryHunter/about

Not being a member of the Youtube community I cannot obtain his contact details however I am a member of Patreon, So I will see if he has contact details on there, if so I will contact him and let him know your on a mission :- )

EDIT 19:18 :- Sorry you have to be signed up to his channel to message him 🙁

Geoff.

August 1, 2023 at 7:56 pm in reply to: Hangar 10 collection sold.. #751020

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Hi All,

I thought this had been mentioned before so here is the OP from 30/01/2023 courtesy of Stratofreighter.

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-aviation/2023-germany-hangar-10-heringsdorf-usedom-collection-be-auctioned

All the links in the linked post above work although a couple seem to be from the same site.

This direct link to Hanar10 also works:- https://hangar10.de/en/welcome-en/ likewise they’re Faceache page still active:- https://www.facebook.com/hangar10.airfighteracademy/

UPDATE – 02/08:- I have emailed Kren4 as both their Youtube and Facebook page seems to have nothing to offer regarding the OP link. However I have come across a link to another article courtesy of https://www.einnews.com/ ( Newswires ) relating to the Kron4 linked article regarding Hanger 10’s sale.

https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/646730065/famous-aircraft-collection-changes-hands-thanks-to-boschung-global#:~:text=Boschung%20Global’s%20tireless%20efforts%20were,newly%20built%20hangar%20at%20Aalen.

Geoff.

August 1, 2023 at 2:07 pm in reply to: D-Day: Prof. Fred Shotton's modified Photo Reccon Mosquito #751036

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Hi All,

BFA :- I contacted the DH Mosquito museums archivist a Mr Peter Shallcross in the hope he could forward some relevant information, he in turn passed my email to his colleague a Mr Ian Thirsk (Mosquito Specialist) who has agreed to my publishing his reply below on the forum to aid your quest.

” Dear Geoffrey,

My apologies for the delayed response to your enquiry of June 21st. I was very interested to read the background to your request and believe the aircraft you are referring to is a modified Mosquito

[series (II), possibly DZ441 (see attached photo). This was one of several B.IV’s modified at Heston to accommodate additional glazing under the forward fuselage immediately aft of the nose. These aircraft were employed to photograph the D-Day beaches before and after the landings and were also fitted with a 35mm cine-camera.]

I will see what additional information I can find. Thanks for your interest in the Museum, it is much appreciated.

Regards,

Ian Thirsk. “

As you can see there may be more to come if available but I think you will agree Mr Thirsk has done a fantastic job with what information he has provided, along with Mr Shalcross from the DH Mosquito museum who has helped immensely by passing on the request to him.

Geoff.

July 31, 2023 at 5:25 pm in reply to: Flight In a two seat Spitfire #751052

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Hi All,

You would have thought certain aviation magazines or a certain forum may have been interested in purchasing this most opportune investment ? Either to donate takings to a good cause or donate the flight to a veteran or simply just raffle it off at say £20 a ticket you’ll still sell all the tickets you’ll only need 115 to sell or 230 tickets at £10 (Two pints)

I mean there must be enough forumites who would jump at the chance for £20 a ticket even more so at £10 surely ?

Geoff.

July 31, 2023 at 5:08 pm in reply to: Stirling Project Update #751053

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Hi All,

John:- Ah! :- ) Anyway like I said ‘ Mighty oaks from little acorns grow ‘ so keep up the great work and I am certain like most on the forum look forward to each and every update on the progress.

Geoff.

July 31, 2023 at 3:44 pm in reply to: Stirling Project Update #751061

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Hi All,

John:- First off well done to yourself and all the team for the magnificent progress you have made with such a difficult task, but when completed the end result will be your and the teams reward and legacy as the viewing masses will marvel at your achievement.

As for the growing aircraft well you know the saying ‘ Mighty oaks from little acorns grow ‘ I think is very apt here.

As to that growing aircraft, Can I take it even in this day of getting rid of waste and cost cutting the RAF are still no help with giving you the remains they hold that are undoubtedly just gathering dust in some hanger at:- is it RAF Stafford ?

To my mind it will eventually just be handed out to a local scrappy as the RAF clearly have no interest or intention of displaying what they have. Why not donate to your project kill to birds with one stone so to speak, getting rid of parts they will never use and help out a project that would always be grateful for those parts.

Geoff.

July 19, 2023 at 5:30 pm in reply to: Stirling Project Update #751240

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Hi All,

Just great to see the praise and rewards you are getting for your dedication to your project and I see your poaching staff from LAHC :- )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdV3avbHshI

Well done Jacob :- (Skip to 22:24)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIx3wZWrzOE

Geoff.

July 19, 2023 at 5:07 pm in reply to: SPOTTED 2023, what have you seen? #751242

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Hi All,

The welcome sight of a regular Emirates A380 on finals to BHX plus by sheer coincidence another A380 heading south at altitude directly above (From my perspective), earlier at approximately 15:30pm :- )

Is that a rare sight two A380’s one above the other ? .

Geoff.

July 10, 2023 at 9:22 pm in reply to: B17F SALVAGE QUEEN #751575

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Hi All,

ballturret:- I don’t know if these sites are any help as I could only find out one definate name (Lt. Bill Harry – Image 4 of 21) also Quentin Bland & Ken Dekker both had a collection of images so were they crew members or curators of B-17 images ?  I am sure if you contact any of them they will at least be able to put you on the right path :- )

https://384thbombgroup.com/_content/_pages/One384thAircraft.php?AircraftKey=42-30005

https://photos.384thbombgroup.com/index.php?/category/F42-30005

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https://b17flyingfortress.de/en/b17/42-30005-salvage-queen/

https://b17flyingfortress.de/en/b17/42-30005-salvage-queen/42-30005-photo/

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https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/b-17/b-17-42-30005-salvage-queen-384-bg-27-11-43-2/

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https://m.facebook.com/groups/1400966466896699?view=announcements

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http://www.forgottenprops.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/b-17_flying_fortress/boeing_b-17f_flying_fortress.html

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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Eg29BgAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=B17F+42-30005&source=bl&ots=3R3qnkwdSA&sig=ACfU3U3cP71_Ple-n7E3BDiFvckYPyjZMw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0nMW9-YSAAxVDiVwKHYnkC844ChDoAXoECBwQAw#v=onepage&q=B17F%2042-30005&f=false

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https://384thbombgroup.com/_content/_pages/websites.php

Edit:- 21:35 10/7/23.

Just found this info looks like this is what you want ? https://384thbombgroup.com/_content/_pages/PersonalWarRecord-R1_0.php?xID7uGt4=4636

Andrew Carr Conway flew combat missions with the 10 crewmates listed below.
Those appearing in bold text are members of his original crew. (Courtesy webs site)

Rank – Name – Position – Missions Flown Together

S-S/S – Baker, Howard Temple – R – 2

2Lt – Belk, Claudius Earle – N – 2

Pvt-S/S – Hemmick, Ralph Eugene – BT – 2

2Lt-1Lt – Henderson, Lykes Shelton – P – 2

S-S/S – Lally, Joseph Aloyious – WG-T G – 2

S/S – McKnight, Harry Alvin – WG – 1

S/S – Price, John Maxon – TG – 1

S/S – T/S – Schultz, Ivon J – TT – 2

F/O-2Lt – Shinsky, Paul Francis – CP – 2

S/S – Smith, George H (IO) – WG – 2

Also this below.

DATE384th BG Mission #8th AF Mission #384th PRIMARY TARGET

1943‑06‑22165Target: General Motors Truck Factory
Type: Industry
Location: Antwerp, Belgium

First 384th Combat Mission: Col Budd J. Peaslee led the 384th Bombardment Group (H) on this mission, a “Secondary Effort” for the day, consisting of the 384th followed by the 381st BG. The 384th put up 20 aircraft for this mission; two B-17s failed to return, 10 crewmembers were KIA, 1 was MIA, 9 became POW, and 4 were wounded.

SORTIE DATA:

COMBAT CREDITSTATUSTARGET ATTACKED (MODE)

YesCompleted Mission
Comments: Ground Spare Aircraft and Crew. Replaced Witt. Landed first with wounded aboard.Primary (Visual)

SORTIE AIRCRAFT DATA:

TYPESERIAL NUMBERSQUADRONSQ CODENAMEGROUND CREW CHIEF

B-17F42‑30005 ⇗546thBK*ASALVAGE QUEENSchuyler, Charles R

SORTIE CREW DATA:

POSITIONCREWMEMBERUNITSTATUS

PilotHenderson, Lykes Shelton⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Co-pilotShinsky, Paul Francis, Sr⇗546Completed, Uninjured

NavigatorBelk, Claudius Earle⇗546Completed, Uninjured

BombardierConway, Andrew Carr, Sr⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Radio OperatorBaker, Howard Temple⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Engineer/Top TurretSchultz, Ivon J⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Ball TurretHemmick, Ralph Eugene, Jr⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Tail GunnerPrice, John Maxon⇗546Seriously Wounded

Waist (Flexible) GunnerSmith, George H (IO)⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Waist (Flexible) GunnerLally, Joseph Aloyious⇗546Completed, Uninjured

Geoff.
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