I strongly recommend spotting on TFN too, as it has the more intersting traffic often including Iberia 747s or A340s. AFAIk some of the britsh charter carriers do also prefer to land there. There are some good spotting points there.
And I always wonder how a flight of Granits works. Assuming that the high flying missile must be faster then the low flying ones, because of the different alltitudes it must also have a higher range.
If it is destroyed however,, one of the low flying missiles must tkae the place, which means that it will use fuel to climb to alltitude.
Keeping that formation in order is a rahter complex undertaking, if you do only relly on the upper missile for target detection.
Only if you have a good fix on the enemies exact position then this would not be of major importance, which would bring us back to the points Jonsey mentioned.
Interstingly a CLOS missile seems more usefull as a ATGM, then a SAM to me. Or nice to attack bunker and other fixed stuff.
And that is what I call a perfect set-up for AEGIS. The illuminator will not limit the system. It can attack the missile with 2-3 SM2. Wait for the result kill the next.
And all that is assuming that the intra-missile datalink works without failure. that the low flying ones are not confused by the destruction of the high missile. That the datalink is save to jamming etc.
Furthermore I can see no target except a CBG, that would warrant firing a bunch of Granits on.
Home made SA-7s ?ß Now that would be an achievement
Those links are funny. Are there still any F-117s left ??
No I´m talking about engagement times. Granit is huge radar target flying at high level. NSM is a small target dlying at low level. If we say that the detection range for Granit is 3 times the detection range (assuming the Ship has the radr turned on), then the time both missiles spent within the envelope of the ships defenses is similiar.
Don´t forget Granit will be engaged by SM-2s, ESSMs, RAM and/or CIWS before hitting a target. It might be overly dangerous when it comes to within 1 km pf a ship, but it has to get there first.
Well somehow I still wonder why we have not seen ,ore orders from the normal launch customers. And the reason why airlines are jumping on the ürogramm yet, could be that Boeing needs more launch customers and is willing to offer a good rebatte.
Well somehow I still wonder why we have not seen ,ore orders from the normal launch customers. And the reason why airlines are jumping on the ürogramm yet, could be that Boeing needs more launch customers and is willing to offer a good rebatte.
Thx for sharing this wonderfull pics
Thx for sharing this wonderfull pics
Lo, to DUS. You are probably faster in the city of Düsseldorf from FRA then from NRN using public transport.
Dortmund is surely much faster, that is were Easy Jets lands.
Lo, to DUS. You are probably faster in the city of Düsseldorf from FRA then from NRN using public transport.
Dortmund is surely much faster, that is were Easy Jets lands.
Another thing to remember we are seeing more and more capable but smaller ships entering service. We see frigates taking over from destroyers and destroyers taking over from cruiser and even some corvette that have a meaningfull air defense capability.
Many of these ships are having an imrpoved capability to intercept an incoming ASM, regardless of type. However those ships have fewer rounds available then the earlier ships. So would it not be more sensible to use more cheap and small missiles instead of few huge and expensive ones ?? I do think so.
On the 4500 Granit. How much of the weight will be left when coming close to the ship. How much of the total weight is fuel that is used up during the flight ??
@ Jonsey : Do you also feel surounded ?