Yes, the F-8 units of Marines were doing CAS in NAm. Must have been to coolest looking CAS aircraft every to grace the sky.
With those rockets mounted on the Sidewinder pylons and the 20mm blazing. 🙂
Nice to blame it on the germans. 🙂
Only because the UK wants to play the little brither of the US and go and invade other countries and therefore needs all those high-tech air-to-ground ammunition, we should pay for integrating stuff we would never need.
I say go ahead Mr. Hoon, let us get rid of that crappy plane once and or all.
I´m sure the french or the russians will be more then happy to allow Germany a licencse production of their current fighters.
I guess we can fit the EJ200 to Rafale and be happy with it.
Originally posted by ELP
Just imagine how an EF would crush an SH.
Yep, can´t wait for the first Red Flag both will participate. 😀
2006 – hopefully 😀
aditya,
well the F-4F crews are pure air-to-air tasked, so they only practice air-to-air. And your estimate of flight hours and sorties is quite correct.
In europe it more efficent to do longer and more complex sorties, because you gain more training time that way. Consider a 15min flight ot the range and a 15min flight back, that leaves about 60 minutes for pure training.
I don´t know about the IAF, but at least in Germany they are nto flying supersonic until they reach the training area (and then only some areas are cleared for supersonic flight). I would imagine that flying supersonic to the range would consume too much fuel.
The flight to the range is normaly made at the most efficent cruise settings.
How are things in India ??
But even 30 minutes, and I´m considering real flight time and not the time between starting to roll and engine shut down, seems awfull short.
A normal sortie for an F-4F for example is 60-120 minutes.
If you add take-off, climb to alltitude, fly to the range, return to base, fly the break and land, then the range must be extremly close nad India is a large country. Does any airbase has a range directly nearby ??
I find that highly interesting.
aditya in reference to your last longer post about IAF flight hours and sortie numbers, I would like to asko some questions about the situation in the MiG-21 Sqns.
You state that the average sortie for a MIG-21 is about 20 minutes long. Why is that the case and what can be trained with in 20 minutes ??
I really see now sense in such short sorties.
Originally posted by flex297
The RC-400 is practically an export copy of THOMSON-CSF RDI radar of late Mirage 2000C models, maybe with some RDY based systems… Proposed mainly for Mirage F1 and MiG-21 upgrades. Ain’t this radar a bit obsolete by now?
Guess it depends on your needs and the money you want to spent.
An APG-65 is also a bit dated today, but it is still a very good radar.
I know m8 😀
I have no list of not trustfull US allies. I have given India an example on how carefull the US is when it comes to use certain equipment even when on excersis with freindly/allied forces.
Originally posted by skythe
You disappoint me, I just wanted to know whether we’re in good company. 😎
Honestly you are with almost every one. 😀
Originally posted by skythe
Come on, share, I’m sure there are plenty of us who would like to know.
No, I´m not bashing Isarael. 😀
You have a PM.
Would have been a good idea to use your ECM over the main testing range of the IAF. I doubt that the USAF would do this.
Btw you would not believe which airforces the USAF considers as risky when it comes to showing their newest toys.
Some of them would be considered close US allies by the public. 😀
Btw in the interest of the IAF I surely hope that they did not use thei SU-30 to full effect and that they did not show the US all tricks.
Do you think is wearing a HMS ??
But we don´t know if they used them with HMS and in full AIM-9X mode. The missile – like IRIS-T or ASRAAM – has a AIM-9L compatibility mode which makes it only slightly better then the older versions and takes away most of the advantages over the older missiles.
But in that mode the US could still test the seeker head on the SU-30.