I really hope this is some kind of joke from you?

BTW Not funny at all and show a very limited view of the facts

What facts?

Facts like how Master Top Airlines got a cargo contract with the fedral post office? :diablo:

Do you have a source for this?

Sure Flug Revue 01 2011 – Visit JG71

Just FYI, they have already designed, built and even flight tested their own turbofan, the Kaveri. Its the critical metallurgical technologies like SCB that they don’t have and are looking to acquire. With Snecma’s help, the Kaveri will hopefully overcome its weight and thrust issues and production critical issues should be resolved by the time the AMCA prototype rolls out. So, its not the designing and building that is the difficult part for India right now- its the perfecting of the last 10% of what constitutes a reliable, working turbofan that meets 100% of its thrust, uptime and reliability requirements.

And if you start to produce EJ and 414 you get an inside view on 2 modern engines and so maybe you learn more than from one.

This is not a ‘design’ (it would never fly), but a concept art performed by world famous industrial designer Syd Mead (who made machines design for Blade Runner, Aliens and bunch of other cool movies) on contract with Lockheed, intended to kinda represent ATF design for PR purposes and ads plus to disinform Soviet spies and aircraft designers – not sure if it really could do the last thing

I think there was more than one design during the early ATF phase, which showed RCS reduced canard fighters. So I guess consideration was given to such layouts in the US as well.

If you want to discuss of what plane is a reminder of the J-20 design, I would think that early ATF designs by Lockheed would qualify.

Some funny posts.

The RAF could not deploy the Hawks to the Falklands, as the Hawks have no air-to-air refuelling capability and nobody would suggest having a subfleet of 6 airframes just for very limited use in the Falklands, where a fighter without a radar is useless during large parts of the year. With the F.3 being withdrawn the only aircraft suited for the mission is the Typhoon.

Exercises must be taken seriously, especially if the result is the same during different exercises. Rafale has dominated Typhoon whenever the two met. So even the biggest fanboy must see that Rafale is omnirole and better at every mission. Typhoon is a failed project.

For MMRCA Rafale must be the obvious choice, as it the best plane offered, but also expensive, so the awful Supper Horro might have a chance. Typhoon can only win through technology transfer and industrial co-operation. If it comes to the aircraft itself, it might be the worst of all contenders.

You know that the goverment accelarted the retirement of the F.3 Tornado in the meantime?

And you also know that Germany, Italy and Spain are in the process of replacing their air defence fighters with the Typhoon first, while all have a fleet of capable strike aircraft ready in form of the Tornado, AMX, F-18 or Mirage F1.