A400M just needs a different powerplant. If the Euro-Prop is cancelled Airbus could possibly redesign the thing quickly.

Only problem if Germany would take all its 180, still EADS Germany got less work then BAE, that would make Miss Merkel quite upset.

Oh no. If the Brits do go ahead with that, they will pay a healthy part of the German Tranche 3B deliveries, as the will have to compensate. Saving money for the Luftwaffe and getting the planes will make Mrs. Merkel happy.

India currently is not able to get a simple light fighter of 4th generatio ntechnology into service by 2010, I doubt MCA would be in service by 2030.

PAK-FA on the other hand is the only option India has to get a 5th generation fighter of utmost quality from a reliable partner.

If need be, they should give up on MRCA deal, finsih LCA and get PAK-FA. There is no need for dated (in the case of mRCA) western equipment. India needs the best and that is PAK-FA. (well at least since F-22 is out of production)

Regardless, the has nothing to do with Materials, Avonics, or Technology. Its purely the flight performance of a “Clean” F-16 vs any “Dirty” Fighter.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

What don’t you get………….

Some rumors say that Typhoons with 2 fuel tanks were able to dominate Dutch F-16s in a clean configuration.

Nope, such definition is invalid. Eritrea and Ethiopia are only being disregarded because they are third world nations, that is a completely biased view. If Japan, for example, used their Mitsubishi F-2s in battle, you would not call them obsolete and their kills invalid even if they only carried AIM-7 Sparrows and AIM-9 Sidewinders (which is nothing more advanced that R-27s and R-73s used by ERAF/ETAF)

The aircraft does matter little if the guidance system of the missile is obsolete. And E-E saw R-27 in use which are SARH.

In Iranian service, ‘winders scored ca 20% more kills than Phoenixes. Needless to say that most Iraqi types were not equipped with functioning RWR, let alone any ECM or ECCM which made BVR shots possible, at all.. Another question is how many of the kills were truly BVR…

Which says nothing, as the F-5 was limited to AIM-9 and the F-4 to AIM-7 and AIM-9.

ECM is at least as important as stealth/RCS reduction As missiles get more sophisticated, so gets the counter-defense, the overall kill probability ratio does not change that much, IMHO.

ECM is nice, but with the tricks latest generation of missile is capable of this is not much. Towed decoys bring a new dimension to the game though.

But in general it should be easy for a SLAMMER to switch from radar guidance to home on jam within milliseconds.

F-22 can´t be that special, as the USAf does not want more of them and seems the onyl special thing about it is the price tag. 😀

Another fact is that Iranians became very careful about what engagements they go into and which they simply ignored. The sortie rate of the Iranians was pathetic the most time, while the Iraqis actually flew quite a lot of sorties.
As conclusion: the Iranians stayed out of harms way where possible, and best weapon for that is the AIM-54.

But this shows the important trend. A active radar-guided AAM allows the shooter to stay out of harms way and still score hits.

I would rather have such a missile and only score hits for 50% off all firing, then a IRAAM which might score 90% of the time, but where the enemy will also score 50% of the time.

New orders would show it is a success, at the moment those are not coming in numbers os it is a failure.