merkleYes, me – but you will have to be specific as to what you need!
Bruce
Thanks Bruce 😀
By Being specific, do you mean individual instrument part No’s or a photo/description of what I have ,and a photo of one in situ in a helicopter with full clocks ??
if its individual no’s you need then I will have to ask some of the very fine Museums we have here in the UK , as i doubt they are listed in any AP file .
at the Moment I only have one of the Altemeter’s fitted, the rest is blank, not even a switch, although I am tempted to turn it into a choctaw panel if Poss, reason Being I have no Idea “Where” this panel came from, there is No ID on it what so ever ,
and with one of my interests being the Vietnam war a choctaw would be interesting, But i imagine USA clocks are a bit thin on the ground, and pricey to bring over from the USA ,
if this is not Viable due to cost/shipping/Tax etc, I will happily return it to early Wessex status,
merkleNot sure if this is the same panel but on the back of the main instrument panel we are currently building up for our TT18 WH887 is the serial number WH797 which was a T.22, is there alot of difference between the two:confused:
All the best Matt;)
Hi Matt,
Yes I bought the panel seperate from the canberra WH887, with a load of clocks , which i gave you with wh887 , also the panel from wk124,
I believe the Canberra WH797 is at Boscombe down , or was, i found some pics on Airliner.net of WH797 .rasberry ripple one if i remember correctly
Wh797 in Fradu too, many years ago, and originally built as a PR.7
ended her days at hanningford metals ,early 1990s
Just a thought Matt,
you also have the panel from WK124, which was a TT18, from Memory I dont think there were any differences regarding the actual panel ,
merkleChoctaw or Wessex ??
Hi all,
Came to a bit of a blank, regarding the wessex panel,
Please excuse me for asking, But !
I wonder if any of you out there know of any dealers who sell postwar instruments, Ebay is pointless and very expensive on the whole, and i would prefer to buy a load of instruments needed in a job lot rather than picking up the odd clock on ebay, I know some “Might” be quite rare, But as for the normal Wessex clocks surely they are in abundance “Somewhere”
Does anyone have any clues as to where i could find the majority of dials/Switches needed to at least make my panel not look so Naked ??
I know I am a Bore, But have looked on the net, and perhaps I have overlooked somewhere to find these parts, any Ideas would be appreciated,
another “Very” silly question, there are lots of instruments on ebay USA , would it be easily possible to turn My wessex 58 HU5 Panel into a Sikorsky
S-58 , Vietnam war Jolly Green Giant Panel,
Ive been searching the net, and it seem to me the US never actually fitted the S-58 (seahorse or Choctaw) with gas turbine engines, Keeping the Radial engines instead,
is this true??.
did Not the americans fit the later wessex, Sorry S-58 with a american Gnome engine or ie a american equivelant gas turbine engine ?
:confused:
merkleMy, my, how times change. When I wer’ a lad it was a Sopwith Camel in a barn :D:D:D
Roger Smith.
Yes ,but to be Fair Roger :D, That was in 1920, and there was loads about !!:D:p:diablo:
Only Kidding Roger 😀
merkleI know these havent been done, but sure would make interesting viewing,
a program about the Old flying machine company ,I remember we all watched with interest the daily life of the OFC when it was going, seeing it going from strength to strength, and sadly its demise, and following on to todays Aviation Heritage groups, Hunter aviation ,Delta jets and many others ,and there fight to keep these birds in the air, and the support groups who work tirelessly behind the scenes,from static restoration to aviation archaeology,
could do Duxford, Aeroventure,weston helicopter museum, and various other museums and behind the scenes,
another idea could be like the british “Coast” program, But following airfields around the country, those still running, and those now derelict, with history from the regions , original old footage, etc,
just a Idea 🙂
merkleI think Arkhipov should never have to put his hand in to his pocket to buy a drink ever again!:)
I Agree, I never realised it was that close , cripes that must have been a close call,
I cant understand the American commander for depth charging the sub, Intercept and track it yes, But “Depth Charge “:eek:, cripes he must have wanted WW3 ,
merkledoes this answer your question ??
I dont think the Cubans , or even the Soviets had sunk a US Destroyer,
I imagine “IF” that had happened in 62 we would have had WW3,
heres some info i found on the US destroyer situation in oct 1962,
seems a soviet Sub, NOT Cuban sea furies had a US destroyer in there sights,
However, The soviets did not fire,
How Soviet sub officer saved world from nuclear conflict
Daily Telegraph (U.K.) – By David Rennie in Washington – 14/10/2002
Only the caution of a Soviet naval officer saved the world from a nuclear fight to the death during the Cuban missile crisis, an unprecedented meeting hosted by Fidel Castro was told this weekend.
Robert McNamara, who was the American defence secretary when the confrontation took place 40 years ago, said it could “easily” have become a full-scale conflict.
The world has long known that it came to the brink of war during the 13-day crisis after American spy planes confirmed that Moscow had deployed nuclear missiles in Cuba, only 100 miles from Florida.
Only later did the West discover how close it came during a naval skirmish between an American destroyer and a Soviet B-59 submarine off Cuba on Oct 27, 1962.
The destroyer dropped depth charges near the submarine to try to force it to surface, not knowing it had a nuclear-tipped torpedo.
Vadim Orlov, a member of the submarine crew, told the conference in Havana that the submarine was authorised to fire it if three officers agreed. The officers began a fierce, shouting debate over whether to sink the ship. Two of them said yes and the other said no.
“A guy named Arkhipov saved the world,” one of the conference co-hosts, Thomas Blanton, of George Washington University, told the Washington Post.
The conference studied thousands of newly declassified intelligence documents and photographs from American archives. Guests included many who were in leading positions. Besides Mr McNamara, there were other aides to President J F Kennedy: Arthur Schlesinger Jr and Theodore Sorensen. Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, also attended.
Despite the atmosphere of reconciliation, fostered in part by Mr Castro’s public condemnation of the Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, for “misleading” Mr Kennedy over the presence of the missiles, old tensions still surfaced.
Dino Brugioni, a CIA analyst who interpreted the first U2 spy plane photographs of the missiles, argued fiercely with Russian delegates who said the Soviet Union never intended to fire them
merkleI’m liking your wants list Nige..The more straight-wing twin jet action the better I say!
here here, although its a shame the old Banshee wasnt still about , from the Korean war , (well i think it was a banshee ??)
merklesorry if i sound a bit Dumb :confused:,
But is this it, is she being dismantled to be saved, or is this the scrapping crew, :confused:
sure looks sad, poor old girl:(
merkleBlah Blah Blah……………….Oh B++++++S
or is it Blah Blah ,My Airfix ……., CRUUUUNNCHHH, OH B@l@**?S :diablo:
merklefor those of you in OZ , a Nice Avro Annie cockpit
as said above, Bit far for us in the UK,
But those of you in Australia, this might be of interest,
A Avro Anson Cockpit RAAF, (needs a fair bit of work though)
Link below
Or perhaps for those who can afford it, How about a fully restored Grumman Avenger !!!
merkleBLah Blah Blah SE5A :diablo:, Blah Blah Fokker 😀
merkleWish it was mine but is actually the guts of XH837 at Caernarfon Air Museum which have been removed and made into a display near the a/c.
Jon
Ahh I see, Sorry Jon,
I never realised, I knew XH837 was at Caernarfon ,but have never been there,
of course i expect they must be rare as most were scrapped in a era where aircraft enthusiasts were still interested in spitfires etc, or that being the main interest in military/aviation, etc just look at the explosion of aviation archaeology after the film “Battle of Britain” was released , so i imagine most of the Jav’s ended up in the melting pot,
merkleI must say Jon, that is one nice set up you have there, I bet thats taken some work to get up to that sort of condition,
and FlyBy, Thanks for sharing that with me, I do check e-bay quite often, but sometimes miss them,
there was a complete javelin at Monkton Farliegh Bomb dump, nr Bath in bits in the late 1980s, it was there for a short period ,and then moved on to heaven knows where??
for me being a child of the early 1970s It amazes me how fast time flys, as it seems like yesterday all this jet stuff was unloved and not wanted, as everybody was still chasing the ww2 parts ,
its amazing how fast it seems to have dried up over the last 10 years .
I actually think now some of the 1950s stuff s rarer than most of the ww2 parts, due to lack of interest in the 70s and early 1980s,
although I could be wrong ?
merkleno I got enough to contend with my wessex panel !,
I could not afford the ww2 panels ,well not so much the panels but the instruments , especailly german, But if i could , a He111 or anything unusual i would like to do, but that is only dreaming, the cost would be beyond me,
thats why i would prefer to do RAF 1950s/60s is a good period, and plenty of spare instruments lying about,
I would love to get my hands on a Hunter one or the pinacle for that period for rareness would be a Javelin, from what i gather they are non existant, well i’ve personally never seen one,:confused:, I would love to be told different 🙂
just a thought but it might be worth me trying to track down some old drawings for the Javelin, Blueprints of the instrument panel, as I know a firm with a Laser cutter, if i could not get the real thing, then a repro blank panel would be a start, I dont even see EE lightning panels these days, seems to be Canberra more than anything, and JP, etc,
(not that i am knocking those 2 wonderful aircraft;) ) .
would be interested to know if a Gloster Javelin panel even exists ??
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