every single episode of Band Of Brothers makes me cry, as does Saving Private Ryan. both are incredible 🙂
i know its a good film, even though old Mel Gibson is a bit of a t@”s@r.:D
“We were soldiers” gets me every time, at the end of the battle, when the war corespondent is asked to please tell the story of the men who died, and the scene when he is on his typewriter, Very moving, and the poor ******s coming home with no one to greet them,
sad thing is , Is History repeating itself,
the Populus and media seem More interested in BB, and all the other crap, than the poor sods out there fightin a war, makes me MAD :mad::(
I would send em all to afghanistan and Iraq, Then THEY would see real REALITY, let alone Reality TV
Also a really good film called “Brotherhood” about the Korean War, , a Korean film with subtitles, it is Heart wrenching, and one of the best war movies i have ever seen, All i can say is Watch it, It will have you in tears for definate come the end, !!
am i right in saying, nothing is left in the area from the college ?
Gold Squadron`s Y-wing fighters with proton torpedos,dont thing the big brother house has an air defence that includes tie fighters.
Ahh “I Have you Now “Big Bruvver” 😀
The Force is strong in this one, FW190UK:diablo:.
I reckon Drop Jabba the Hutt from a avro vulcan Bomb bay straight on top of em, with a Hesbola head scarf on and a few Photon torpedoes and alarm clocks strapped to his chest, :diablo:
causing a major bellyflop BOOM:eek: , then we can watch Big bruvver on “SKY” LOL, or well um Ahem, In the Sky , LOL:D:)
and after writing about buying in Poland, I read the whole thread and see you (Merkle) already aired the idea ! I blame the nice pics of the MiG….. I always read the pictures before the text ! ::p
Me too, LOL:D,
amazing how a pic of a nice Mig, can get me all hot a bothered,:o
I reckon men turn into boys again when they have settled down with a mrs,
here i am 36 years young, with teen daughters and a mrs, and i get more exitement looking at/working on nice planes than the mrs, LOL,
goes to prove, boys never grow up, just there toys get more expensive LOL,:p:D:):diablo:
Big Bruvver
Well from a qoute from a VERY famous speech, ( “i wont say which one”)
For “Whom the Gods wish to destroy , First They Made MAD,”.
We MUST be Mad, Literally Mad, to sit and watch this “manure” they throw at us on the TV,
Erm… Would there be any tax due at all, on import into UK? I can’t think why.
Why not look closer to home… like Poland. Museums often keep several of their ‘home’ types to swap aircraft with museums in other countries. They might consider selling one, or at least know where one is available. I mean… a museum in Poland may have enough on display, and be uninterested in others they know of in Poland. Poland is just a day’s drive from the ferry ports to UK.
Another idea… look at aircraft scrapyards in the East on Google Earth. I was in Riga a few years ago and saw a whole bunch of old aircraft parked in a paddock next to the airport. Didn’t notice any MiG-15s, though.
BU**ER ! Now I want one !
after i put that comment on about tax, I Realisd this only was with items from the usa.
I bought a original german tunic from the states, via e-bay for 300 quid , and was charged 80 quid tax for the privaledge of having it in the uk,
but being poland etc is part of the EU, i imagne there would be no tax to pay 😀
meteor
Thanks F4MPHIXER, I wondered what had happened to the JP. Looks like I may be right about the Meteor, was that the old fire dump then (near the firing butt), I wonder?
Seems like they buried everything they had burnt or crashed then. I’d bet there’s all sorts of a/c stuff buried there – helped by the fact that it’s easy to dig a hole in the sand.
So do you reckon that old Meatbox T-7 is still there upside down in the sand then Anon ??
if it is, I will be polishing up my shovel 😀 !!
The viper engine was designed as a ‘throw away’ E.C.U. if you friend has the engine log cards i suggest you check them throughly and find out how much if any life the engine has left. If it hasn’t any life left i wouldn’t even think about turning it over, catastrophic blade failure at high speed…not pleasant. if there is still life in the old girl a through inspection will normally suffice, just remember to prime the rear bearings before a run if the engine has been idle for more than 14days or you’ll trash the unit.
My Friend Owns WW453 with a Alvis Leonedies Radial Engine, as fitted to all Provost T.1
thanks for your advice though, if i ever get a JP, then i will take your advice,
😀
Hi
I own a taxiable Jet provost T Mk.3A. fitted with a Bristol Siddley (not Rolls Royce!) Viper 102.
look for corrosion, it’s the castings that ofted suffer the most, so have a very good look, take a very powerfull light and look as deep into the engine as you can from both ends.Rotate (watch your fingers) the compressor blades, they will always clatter around a lot at low speeds and temperature, so ignore that, you are looking for signs of rubbing between the casings and the rotating shafts. Check visualy all the blades you can see for signs of chipping, cracks, distortion and over heating, all can be a serious problem. If all seems well than thats a good start, but you won’t know for sure how good it is till you try to run it, at that stage, you are looking for metal in the filters, check any magnetic chip detectors if fitted and check for good oil pressure and temperatures in the specified range. Be very vigilant checking the condition of oil and fuel lines, they are probably the biggest fire risk you will have.
I am personaly of the view that a gas turbine is probably safer to run than a vintage reciprocating engine. It is VERY rare for a turbine to let go, but if it did, the engine is designed to hold it all in, and it is even rarer for anything to escape the cowling. I have seen a R.R. Tyne that lost a turbine and did a lot of damage to a Merchantman many years ago, but I think thats about it in over 34 years around aircraft, both proffesionaly and as a hobby. But I don’t even want to imagine the damage a runnaway prop could do, or a blade letting go due to either corrosion or unseed damage, and I certainly would’t want to be sat in the aircraft in either case, a runnaway prop is excitment you can do without, and an incomplete prop will tear the engine out of the airframe, and vibrate every tooth out of your head at the same time!!!!!!
Most of all remember, these are not toys, they are potentialy very dangerous in the wrong hands. Get qualified help, learn how to maintain and opperate the engine propperly, never cut corners, never modify anything, and follow strict safety rules, there is a very good reason that both the military and civil organisations do thing the way they do, and that way, you will live long enough to enjoy your investment.
If you ever want to get the feel of how it can be done, arrange to pop over to Bruntingthorpe one weekend when we are running an engine, we will give you a bit of a show with the Jet Provost, or ask 320PSI very nicely, and Andy will probably scare you to death with a Lightning!
Ritch a Max,
Many thanks for the Info,:)
I have been a Non Destructive testing engineer for over 10 years now, so if anyone can find corosion or problems i bet i can, all be it my main line of work is Radiography and Dye penatrant inspection, I am Qaulified to PCN Level 2
I however Do Not hold Aviation tickets , I only have tickets for welds etc,
if i can ever be of help, i would be keen to do so, 😀
one thing i wanted to do years ago was to fit a cockpit And engine on a fixed and properly Built trailor, ie a Vampire etc, or even just the engine to run up,
howevor, if i ever managed to get a complete airframe, (maybe a gang of us)
i would want it to ground run (safely) at least
Tops on my wish list would be a Mig 17, Meteor, Vampire, etc etc,
but i will just see what comes along one day. and the chance of a Mig are very few and far between, although i imagine there are still many over eastern europe,
migs
id love 2 find some were that has a few for sale and buy with other people! that way the cost of shipping them over and work needed on them could be devided!
imagen have a small squadren of mig 15,17’s based 2getther at some were like brunters!!
yep i would love such a idea, but with everybody living so far apart, it looks almost impossible, unless we all live in a 50 mile radius ,
I live in bristol
uk 🙂
mig photo
heres a pic of a mig 15 ( ex Polish airforce Lim 2) painted in north Korean Colours, from the FAA Museum Yoevilton UK
Not so much cockpits by themselves – at least not when it comes to MiG’s anyway. More often than not, a person will spot disassembled airframes like the ones in the photos below. These two (ex-Bulgarian) airframes were spotted by another warbird enthusiast last month just across the border frm me in east Texas. There is another complete example displayed out in front of an antiques shop about 50 miles up the road from these in a small town outside of Dallas.
There are at least 80 different MiG-17’s in the United States that I have traked down, and quite a few are still stored disassembled like this. Many are already becoming derelict after being acquired as “cheap” display pieces at smaller museums around the country. A person could pick up quite a few of them relatively cheaply if they were motivated to that end, but the cost of diasssembly, loading, trucking, and unloading would be more of the limiting factor. Honestly, if I had a place to put them (!) this would probably be a primary focus of mine – collecting these disrepected airframes on the cheap and storing them as investments for the future. Once you get your hands on one, concerns about long term storage become a very real factor in your game plan. I was limited to an old barn at the time of my first recovery. I’m about a year out from finally acquiring my own hangar finally, after which I may single out another airframe somewhere and give it another go. Still no budget to make a real bid at restoration and flying though. 😉
Must say Rob,
real nice pictures and
I Envy you, living in the USA there are so many warbirds lying around,
I wonder what it would cost to buy one fo these ex Display pieces that are falling apart ,like the ones you have mentioned,??
we dont really see them here in the UK,
I Imagine to purchase one ,Load it up, then transport to a dock ,put into a shipping crate, and ship to UK, Also the TAX on that when it arrives in the UK would be Prohibitive to most british enthusiasts,
Has anyone out there managed to do such a thing before on a shoe string budget ??(I know ,Dreaming Again) but i suppose i have wanted to own a Mig now for over 10 years, but never knew the contacts, in eastern Europe, or how to go about it, I tried Various Avenues, But allways hit a dead end, I must be doing something wrong ,especally when so many have made it to the USA from Europe :confused:
radium dials
Just a word of warning: the instruments in soviet warplanes of that age have radioactive dial markings and pointers.
No, I’m not a health and safety bureaucrat (ie, idiot!)
Just trying to be helpful.
Bri 🙂
I know exactly what your saying,Radium is dangerous, But ONLY if it is Ingested,if you have any broken glass on your dials be careful when removing, and try not to get your fingers on the actual Dial face it self,
Wash hands after handling the dials, and you will be OK, the worry is to touch a uncovered dail face (No Glass) get a minute particle of Radium paint on your hand , then grab a sandwich or something to eat, thus acidentally Ingesting any radium particulate from your fingers, as long as you wash your hands straight after, and dont put your fingers in your mouth you are 110% safe,Oh and NO SMoking, just incase it is on your fingertips, and you ingest it that way, basicly use a bit of common sense and your OK .
How do i know this ??
Well i have been a Industrial Radiographer for over 10 yr’s s I think i am educated enough to give a Honest opinion ,:)
litchfield uk find early 90s
hi, i have a very good friend who in the late 1980s/early 1990s.
who found a complete aileron from a hawker typhoon, lying on the surface at litchfield, a town north east of birmingham city, UK ,I think ,
i met someone else who jumped down into a ditch there to take a pee, who bashed his knee on a “Armour Plate” from a typhoon there as well,
now i know there was a major scrapping operation there, many moons ago,
But my question is, 1= Does the site still exist and does anyone remember which fields it is in?, and 2, is anything left?, and 3 ,if there is a possibility of anything left, who would be keen on doing a magnetometer survey over th site (permission permitted) with me ,some time in th future ?,
cor, she is a beauty,
just what i was after a few years ago, there was a scrap dealer in babimost poland,but ihave a feeling he only had mig 21,
shipping to england would be pretty expensive i am sure,unless you just are lucky to find a cockpit in europe, and take a trailer and pick it up yourself, from say poland,
i was talking to some poles, and they drive home now and again, it takes them about a whole day to drive there
wish i could do it myself,as i really would like a cold war fighter one day,
do you ever see derelict cockpits in the states ??,
:):)