Israel did it’s part it what is called “the road map”, which is a series of
steps taken by both parties that aventuly will lead to a Palestinian state.
The Gaza withdrwal last summer was a key (and very costly) major step.
I don’t deny that Israeli foreign corps are doing a horoble job at explaining
the reality and the facts, the foreign media anti israeli biase doesn’t help either.

So now to the facts. since the Israeli withdrawl 600 rockets and 400 morters
were fired into Israeli towns bordering Gaza. Israel’s response was to shell
the empty field in Gaza to scare the terroirst. it didn’t work.
Then Israel started to use it’s air force to hunt the rocket launchers.
in this operations many terrorist were killed, however the exploding rockets
on the trucks also killed and injured innocent civilians that were around.
on other occasions and israeli helicopter fired a missile went array hiting a house
50 meter from the intded vehicle killing several innocent civilians.
So yes, palestinian civilians do die but it is not done purpesly and is the reality of the
war that the Palestinians have started.
If you know a country that would have acted differntly when it’s towns are attacked
then let me know.

Some 50 years ago most of arab countries were unable to make a “pin” but time has changed, now most of them have well educated and rich people .

I think in next 20 years most of them gonna built there own nuclear reactors.

So how long Israel gonna exist with such harsh policy??

Do you think those arab countries gonna sit and watch the crimes israeli army doing?

If I was prime minister of Israel i used peace for land policy.

Land for peace policy you say? Is your definition of peace includes 600
rocket fired at school, kindergarten and residential areas? Because this
is what Israel got for giving the Palestinians 100% og Gaza. But then
again you already knew it.

Nice to see you have managed to miss the point of my previous post entirely. :rolleyes:

You must be a true child of the Nintendo generation if you actually beleive dropping bombs on people is comparible to sending tents and food. If you truely can’t see the difference then there is no point in continuing this discussion with you.

Sending tents is also politcally motivated. It is clear that you win more
hearts with tents then bombs, but then again not every one gets tents
or any help when there is disaster. winning hearts in Muslim indonesia
is more important then hearts in El Salvador or Africa and you know the
reasons for that. I’m of the Atari generation.

America didn’t want to know about WWII till the japanese bombed them, guess them deciding to get involved in the war afterwards is also an example of hypocrisy. :rolleyes:

I don’t think you understand what hypocrisy is. A nation or a person have the
right not to give a crap about another nation or person.
That doesn’t give anyone the excuse to attack them for no reason.

Also, the Russians are sending a very small force to hunt for the people who murdered their diplomates, they are not going to contribute to the occupation, so its not even like the Russians are going back on their previous position.

So this troops are going to land where? They will be co-ordinating their moves with who? I wonder it terrorist going to see the Russian forces
“Not part of the Occupation”.

So, by your logic, if it can be proven that there are ‘terror camps’ in the US, anyone and everyone else have a legitmate reason to send in troops to take over? Get real mate. :rolleyes:

If the US doesn’t attempts to remove them and gives them money, training,
weapons and shelter then of course they should be removed by force.
You are to smart to miss such an obvious point.

And you think the US and UK went into Iraq to help the average Iraqi? :rolleyes:

Is this a Yes or no question? I think it’s both for selfish reasons and a true
desire to change the middle east. On the other hand we know thew UN
opposition to the war was clearly due to the fact that it will hurt their
dirty deals with Saddam. It was the people who were in charge of the Iraqi
civilians health that were killing them for profit and yet it is the US and Britain
that are evil, right?

I’m…speachless. I find it astonishing that someone can believe with what I have just read above. Surely you can see the gaping gulf of difference between a HUMANITARIAN AID effort and MILITARY INTERVENTION!

How many locals did the international tsunami relief effort kill and how many were killed in kosovo and Iraq? It might come as a shock to some, but most rational people find it one thing to choose to send aid to help the needy and quite another to drop bombs on them to achieve their ‘liberation’. :rolleyes:

Did the Russians not send aid to help the tsunami victims or donate aid to help with the reconstruction?

You can’t fight a tsunami with laser guided bombs and you can
fight terrorist with makeshift tents. Every situation calles for
different action. Putin was against the Iraqi invasion because
it wasn’t in his intrest. Now it is so he is for sending troops.
You don’t see the hypocrisy here?

Purhaps an example will make it more clear how obserd your original protest is. Terrorists killed thousands of Americans and other nationals on American soil, does that give Nato or the Russians or the Chinese grounds to send troops into America to hunt terrorists? :rolleyes:

Not sure you are aware of it but the terrorist camps were in Afghanistan
and not in Manhaten. NATO the US and others did send troops to get
the terrrosits. They are still there!

Just because you’re are not dropping bombs on people does not mean you do not care.

And so what if Putin cares little about the suffering of others? I did not see the US or UK doing much to stop the genocide in Congo and what did the international community do about the British occupation of Northern Ireland? Every nation puts their own interests first and foremost, and I don’t see why the Russians should be criticised for doing the same. Putin is the president of Russia and not Iraq. Russia and Russians should be his primary concern, if he places the goods of other peoples ahead of Russians, then he is a poor RUSSIAN president.

Exactly. Every nation cares about it’s own intrest and that’s why
Putin decided to send the special troops only after his people were
hurt and not before hand ;cause he had nothing to gain by helping
the average Iraqi.

Putin is the Russian president, Iraqs are not his concern, but Russians are. I fail to see the point you are trying to make here.

You don’t see the point because you are covering your eyes and ears.
Why did so many countries helped the Tsunami victims? Bush or Blair and
the rest are not Thai or Indonisian, so why send help? Why did NATO go to
Kosovo or why some nations sent troops to Darfur? they are not Kosovars
or Sudanese so why be concerned?

If Iraq is not his concern then what did those diplomat do there in the first
place?

No drinking or gambling on that day, so why would anyone want to go?

So basicaly Putin is unmoved by the terrorist killing thousans
of Iraqis and other nationals, how ever when it reached home
then all of a suden we will show this terrorist……..

this is BS and you know it, this divid and conquer mentality does NOT work with Syrians, but why should I tell you, should let you mis-led as this is your first step towards defeat.

You can keep barking but i have seen the Syrian soldiers in their baracks.
I wish that you would spend one winter with them in their conditions.
My father was on the the cease fire line during the Lebanon war, He told
me that the Syrian soldiers would cross the lines and begged them for food,
cigarets and money; some didn’t even have shoes.
What i saw many years later was much worst. I’m sure that the only fighting
they will do is for the previllage of getting into an Israeli POW camp as many
Palestinians already do link. The Syrian commando is good,
well trained and will fight to the end, but most of will have to stay and
defend “dear leader” in case some of his uncle friend decide it’s time for him
to go.