Thanks chaps,
By the way, it’s not my project but the museum I work for as a volunteer. Several people (with our chairman bearing the brunt of the work at the moment) are spending their spare time doing the job that the paid jobs should do.
By a one in a million chance the aircraft was identified after the second diving expedition when a panel was brought up, which after clearing was identified as the skinpanel to the right of the entry door and carrying the full serialnumber. To say we were extatic is an understatement.:rolleyes:
The previous investigation on the lake, the 300 sqn Lanc took us five years to fully identify.
Cees
Try the musea at Gardermoen (Oslo) and Bödo up in the north, fantastic collections.
I was there with EHVB last month and enjoyed every minute of it. Norwegian.Com is also a pleasant airline to travel with. Flew over Lake Mjosa as well:)
Cees
martin,
All items that have been brought up were recovered by archeological divers we are cooperating with. The water is shallow at only two metres but everything is in a metre of soft mud with no visibility. The only way to see what is found is by bringing it up. We are also keeping the Recovery Officer of the RNetAF informed on regular basis and by every legal means to continue this preliminary investigation. It takes time but it’s worth it.
Cees
How do you know we are ugly?
:p
Cees
Previous experiences have shown that the power of the press was decisive to have a wreck recovered, but the problem is that there is no national/european/global script that can be used in any case with the exeption of the U.S.. It’s about time and steps are being undertaken to see if such a situation can be (and should be) created for any future recoveries. It’s now 2010 and this particular crash took place in 1943 and the feelings are still very strong. If Gouvernments think that time will solve this “problem” (for them it is) then they should think again.
The Geneva Convention still stands, it’s about time countries should act accordingly.
Cees
Thanks Andy,
These six must be recovered whatever it takes.
Cees
Possibly the instrument to clear stoppages for the turret guns. The one I have also looks like a frustrated coat hanger. Also used by the turretgunner instead of the FE.
HTH
Cees
Andy,
Apart from one, we are in contact with six families, the last one doesn’t seem to have relatives anymore but we are still looking into it. A few weeks ago family were taken to the crashlocation by boat during which the escape hatch was recoverd I showd some pics last week. This was the second time next of kin visited the site. Last year a son of one of the crew was present. He had a photograph of him (at age of six at the time) and his father. Very emotional happenings I might add.
Cees
Elliott,
The usual, the British Authorities refuse to play their part in a recovery and claim it as a wargrave. This aircraft is reported to have come down in the North Sea, but we found it in the IJsselmeer. So how can you designate this to be a wargrave when the precise position isn’t known? We are working on a scheme to have the six missing crewmembers recovered so that they can have the proper burial they deserve. The six families are outraged by the lack of intrest shown by the authorities and will do anything they can to have this case solved in the only way possible.
Watch this space.
Cees
p.s. Andy,
Don’t know if there is such a thing as a list for sailors.
Hi Dave,
Your lurking days are over now I gather:)
Welcome to the forum, join the madness present here and enjoy.
Thanks for the tip, that WOP seat looks absolutely fantastic and is complete with it’s covering. I have one too but it lacks the leather upholstry unfortunately and is just the bare frame.
These seats have a habit of turning up every now and then. The green leather looks to me as used in the HP Hastings in which the WOP seat was identical apart from a headrest but it seems that there is no sign here of any fittings. IMHO the wartime Hally’s had black upholstry but I am not sure about that.
Hope that seat gets a good home but the price would be a bit steep.
Cheers
Cees
Any pics of the Hampden remains?
Cees
Not THAT book again, about time to let it see the light of day then.:cool:
Cees
Just another example what this forum does for the historic aviation scene.
Cees
Mark,
Feel free to enlighten us.;)
Cees