– as an American Airforce general said NATO, INCLUDING the USA, should have bought TSR2, this would have reduced cost and rapidly developed the aircraft’s mission role but as usual politics got in the way.
Regards,
Weinace:)
And how was the carrier-capable interceptor version of TSR.2 coming along, eh?
Sorry… in 1962 MacNamara would only allow the USAF & USN to buy 1 basic aircraft… and TSR.2 had no carrier version.
By 1967, the USN was allowed to go its own way and drop the F-111B in favor of the F-14, but that was too late for TSR.2.
The French deployed a small handful of theirs (3 in 2009), but the last I heard the Germans were still having difficulties with theirs as well.
Here is the story from May 2010, where Germany suspends their contract for them, saying none of the 11 they have received are fit for even training, much less combat: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Caged-Tiger-Germanys-Troubled-Helicopter-Purchase-06411/
Note that the Germans were supposed to have received all 67 by 2010, but only 11 had been delivered.
In this story from this month, a German General says that they could, in 2012, send 4 to Afghanistan… 2 to fly and 2 as “technical reserve”.
Could German Tiger Attack Helos Be Afghanistan Bound?
However, the RAAF has had theirs for years, and still won’t clear them to fly at night or in combat scenarios (current “full combat capability” isn’t expected until at least December this year, despite the entire order having been delivered in mid-2010).
See this thread: First Tiger deployment: Aussie Tiger to Afghanistan
Note that, while the thread opens in 2007 with the planned deployment of RAAF Tigers to Afghanistan, in the second post on page 2 we are in 2011, and they still haven’t been cleared for combat ops. The posts from there discuss why, and the problems the Aussies have been having with them.
And yet in the RNZAF the P-40E’s we had were generally known as Kittyhawks, and the K, M and N models all seem to have been officially known as Warhawks (I guess as they were the models used in combat and our squadrons were then under US control).
Well, the names Tomahawk & Kittyhawk tended to be used for any “export model” (such as those shipped to China for use by the AVG)… and the RNZAF would be familiar with the RAF Tomahawks/Kittyhawks, and thus would be likely to use the RAF names.
Thanks… will have to keep an eye on it.
Tomahawk was the RAF name for the P-40B/C.
Kittyhawk was the RAF name for the P-40D/E/F/K/L/M/N.
Warhawk was the USAAF name for the P-40F and later models (the USAAF didn’t formally apply a name to the early P-40s).
The RAF names were applied informally (mostly post-war) to the “unnamed” USAAF P-40s.
The P-40B/C had the nose guns and the small chin intake, the P-40D & later had all-wing guns and the deep chin intake.
The first of the French-ordered H81-A1s flew on June 6, 1940, and a few were actually completed with French markings. However, before any of their H81-A1s could be delivered, France had surrendered. Britain agreed to take over the entirety of the French order, and gave the H81-A1 the name Tomahawk I in RAF service.
The Tomahawk IIA (Model H81-A2) was generally equivalent to the US P-40B.
The Tomahawk IIB (Model H81-A2) was generally equivalent to the US P-40C.
The Kittyhawk I (Model H87-A2) was generally equivalent to the US P-40D.
The Kittyhawk IA (Model H87-B2) was generally equivalent to the US P-40E.
The Kittyhawk II was generally equivalent to the US P-40F/L.
The Kittyhawk III was generally equivalent to the US P-40K/M.
The Kittyhawk IV was generally equivalent to the US P-40N.
I think that impression is down to editing because after the engines stop you see a crewman opening the top hatch then there’s a cut, whereas the earlier footage seems to continue on from that and then abruptly cuts back to just after the crash-landing with the engines running down. Why insert that part of the film reel there is a mystery.
Actually, if you look at the film again, in the scene where the majority of the crew slide/run down the wing, you see the stbd props still spinning fast.
Then comes the scene where all props are still running, but you can see aircrew walking around the aircraft.
Later, the spinning props finally stop.
Only then do we see the scene where the props are stopped and someone climbs out of the top hatch.
I strongly suspect they exited rapidly in case it caught fire, and only when they were sure that wasn’t going to happen did one man re-enter and shut down the engines.
So can we now expect a bunch of Hurricane owners to convert their aircraft to 2 seat versions like the slew of 2 seat Spitfires? 😉
I had always fancied taking a P-38M and fitting the pathfinder nose onto it.
That way you could take 2 adult passengers up.
P-38 pathfinder (droopsnoot):
P-38M (in day paint, without flash suppressors or radar):
P-38M in full night fit:
Well u could be right, but..
Isn’t most of the foregin Intel now focused on war against terror:confused:I fail to see what the Pak-Fa program has in common with ‘war on terror’?
I think it is more a question about industrial Hi-tech intel/espionas/stealing.
While Sukhoi is partial under State ownership, they could just as likely be under the scope by other privatized competitors..
Like LM etc etc.But of course it is partial related with National security anyway i guess..
How is it done?
LM sends a inquiry to Pentagon about the Pak-Fa progress.
Pentagon then patch it through to CIA or something..
And any conclusion comes back in the same order..:)
Only the stupid focus on only one of the many possible enemies.
The “War on Terror” is NOT the last armed conflict this planet will have… and insisting on a “WOT-only” mindset is lunacy.
Even if the US intel community regarded Russia as not being a threat (and they do accept the possibility of renewed antagonism, trust me), they still have to consider Russian military equipment sales to other, more likely opponents as posing the risk that our forces might face top-line Russian equipment in non-Russian hands.
This means that the US (and UK, and France, and Germany, and China, and India, etc) will still be trying to find out everything about everything as soon as the Russians know it.
There is an old saying… “Names have power, and should be chosen wisely”.
This is especially true when dealing with politicians and voters!
Notice the sabre? 😉
I like it!!
Ah… but it was the first intercontinental flight by a tiltrotor aircraft!
One must keep one’s sights firmly fixed on the minutia!
😉
On the larger scale, this is a sign of the continuing maturation of both the aircraft and operational doctrine for it.
As there are still those who claim hysterically that the Osprey is “a failure”, a “flop”, a “boondoggle”, etc., any positive news tends to be trumpeted more loudly than may be actually justified in order to show that the detractors are not correct.
Lets just take this news for what it is… another capability has been validated operationally, and the Osprey is proving more of its capabilities as a useful operational aircraft than before.
How is this “naval aviation”?
1. HMS Astute is a naval vessel.
2. The gunman was tackled and disarmed by Southampton city councilman Royston Smith (part of a group of city officials touring the boat).
3. Mr. Royston Smith is a former RAF flight engineer on Nimrods… a maritime patrol aircraft.
Thus, naval aviation stopped further bloodshed.
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/03/defense-aircraft-launch-system-coming-back-after-pause-030911/
Navy to correct delayed aircraft launch system
Posted : Wednesday Mar 9, 2011 22:00:02 EST
The new Electronic Aircraft Launch System under development for the U.S. Navy took a “pause” to correct problems that appeared after the first test launch in December, a top Navy official said March 9.
Just noticed this… this has nothing to do with aircraft lasers… this is a replacement for the steam catapults that launch aircraft from carriers.
Ark Royal would be a much better (imho) name than PoW. Hope it happens.
Yes… its bad enough that the British association of PoW is with a man who was unfaithful to his first wife from nearly the start of his marriage, but the first thing an American thinks of when he sees the acronym is “Prisoner of War”!
ZOMBUMP!!!
3 year old thread, not quite a record though 😀
And the reason for the bump?