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  • in reply to: Canberra fuselage / cockpit disposal #1101597
    N.Wotherspoon
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    “Young man” – I like that !!! ๐Ÿ˜€

    Sorry if my post offended – it was supposed to be light hearted, in spite of what must have been a difficult decision to make and with several of the Dumfries crowd evident at the auction at Millom I did wonder if the price achieved, for what everyone had declared a total wreck, had helped them make up their minds?

    However, on a more serious note I understand the under-bidder was a scrap dealer? Which surely indicates that todayโ€™s scrap prices are likely to have serious effect on the aircraft preservation movement. With airframes having a potentially greater value by weight alone than perhaps some collections can afford to pay?

    Another point – and I hope still relevant โ€“ is the absence of โ€œnewโ€ material coming onto the preservation scene, as โ€œreduce to produceโ€ seems to be the order of the day โ€“ perhaps to remove the evidence of the utter waste of taxpayers money as more and more aircraft seem to be falling victim to politically motivated cuts? There does still seem to be an air of complacency around Canberras, Vampires and the likes, which it seemed were once available to any small group of enthusiasts wanting to try to โ€œpreserveโ€ one. Many of these have fallen by the wayside by now and with little or new material likely to be available, those that are left certainly need to be looked after โ€“ So I really do genuinely hope this one finds a good home.

    in reply to: Canberra fuselage / cockpit disposal #1102364
    N.Wotherspoon
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    The museum is now open to offers / swaps regarding the whole of the aircraft as it lies now INCLUDING the cockpit. We have a reasonable idea of the value of the cockpit and the weight of the fuselage so we can’t let it go for pennies,JK

    Would that be around 3,200 GBP perchance! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    in reply to: RAF Millom Aviation & Military Museum Closure #1115946
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Anyone know what happened to the link trainer base and desk? We have a link trainer that needs both these items. Any help much appreciated. Thanks Jason – Bottisham Airfield Museum Group

    It was sold at the auction and has been collected – The buyer frequents the forum and can no doubt be found if you read through earlier posts on this thread – If I understood correctly, it is a mismatch of parts, likely to be used in a couple of restoration projects.

    in reply to: Heads Up: BBC 1 (North West), 19:30 14/02/11 #1116484
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Hi 611 Squadron โ€“ We are still struggling a little with his RAF career โ€“ we have dates of enlistment and promotion, as well as a rough idea of when he was injured and transferred to the ATA. But despite extensive trawling through the records at the PRO by Alan, no trace of him has been found. Even getting in touch with his relatives has not helped much in this respect, as his sisters were very much younger than him, so had no information and his widow, although happy for our project to go ahead, did not want to become involved – too many sad memories, I feel – and quite understandable. So we still have little to go on, other than a few family tales, with no place names or Squadron Nos. plus a few comments in the AIB report and his obituary. So the project remains open & we hope to get a break one day!

    One of the witnesses on the day of the dig, certainly gave a graphic account of an aircraft clearly suffering from some form of mechanical problem. However, the engine shows no apparent evidence of this โ€“ in fact itโ€™s like brand new! โ€“ It had only done some nine hours! The valve gear is all intact and shows no signs of failure, ruling out a dropped valve, which would fit with his description. Another possibility would be an ignition problem, but much of the harness was ripped away as the engine buried itself – so no smoking gun there. The engine does appear to have been running at impact, though perhaps not at anywhere near full power โ€“ gouge marks from a turning reduction gear breaking free are present, as well as a big end shearing off as it came to a sudden halt and rotational gouges and bearing failure around the supercharger gearing – all seem to point to it having been turning and stopping very suddenly!

    Although several instruments were found, they were all in pieces and certainly no possibility of any readings โ€“ The same with the throttle quadrant, which was totally smashed, as were the trim controls. We do now know that the canopy was still with the aircraft on impact, so as it was noted as open by witnesses, it must have been slid back rather than jettisoned, so bailing out was obviously not Fairmanโ€™s first instinct? as it must have impeded his exit? All the witnesses do seem to agree that the aircraft was circling the village at a low altitude for several minutes before the crash and although it was seen flying erratically just before its final dive, none spoke of โ€œaerobaticโ€ manoeuvres. Sixty-five years after the event, we never expected a definite answer, but in our opinion the pilot was definitely in trouble and knew it โ€“ But sadly left it too late, for whatever reason, to abandon the aircraft.

    in reply to: Heads Up: BBC 1 (North West), 19:30 14/02/11 #1118163
    N.Wotherspoon
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    iplayer

    For those who missed it – well I suppose it was Valentines day & other commitments may have taken priority! ๐Ÿ˜‰ It is now on iplayer at:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ylrb1/Inside_Out_North_West_14_02_2011/

    The dig is only part of the program, starting at 11:45 minutes – it was to have been the full half hour & they certainly had enough material, but that’s what happens when you work with the media – However, it’s well edited and gets the main points in without the usual repetition, so perhaps it was for the best – especially as you get to see less of me ๐Ÿ˜€

    in reply to: Heads Up: BBC 1 (North West), 19:30 14/02/11 #1121771
    N.Wotherspoon
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    A couple more to whet your appetite โ€“ the impact site was now under a rockery feature in a front garden of a rather large house in a decidedly up-market area!

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    It took some serious negotiating to get the owners to allow us to this!

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    Followed by putting everything back, just as we found it ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: Heads Up: BBC 1 (North West), 19:30 14/02/11 #1123920
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Looks good boys, the engine cleaned up lovely and no too badly damaged either, what happened to the prop hub?

    Thanks Gareth & Ian – You should have seen me after cleaning the engine though !!! ๐Ÿ˜€

    There were Magnetometer readings over towards the tree, which may have been the sheared off hub and reduction gear, but equally could have been more burnt fuselage remains – As we were under strict instructions that the tree must not be harmed, it was decided that it was not worth risking any further damage to its root system by digging towards it!

    in reply to: Heads Up: BBC 1 (North West), 19:30 14/02/11 #1126032
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Photos

    A few photos to be going on with ๐Ÿ™‚

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    in reply to: Heads Up: BBC 1 (North West), 19:30 14/02/11 #1127130
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Inside Out

    Managed to speak to the producer today – sounds like he has had to edit it again to make it shorter ๐Ÿ™ He did confirm it will also be going out on Inside Out South East, though not necessarily at the same time.

    in reply to: Rumour Of A Couple Of Whirlwinds… #1129278
    N.Wotherspoon
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    I heard rumour just today that one may be being unearthed down south very shortly so we shall wait and see.They might like it back but do they seriously have the time and resources to do anything with it ?. I doubt it and would they be more likely to let a group of enthusiasts build one and perhaps offer it to them or similar emporium on loan for future display I think more likely.

    It doesnโ€™t matter if they have the time or resources to do anything with it โ€“ Itโ€™s written into the licence that they can claim anything they like and it seems that they have started to exercise this right. Fighterace has a point, this is a rare beast and that could easily arouse their interest and you could find yourself conducting a very expensive excavation โ€“ if the sites are as difficult as I suspect โ€“ and ending up having to hand the choice finds over at the end of it .

    in reply to: RAF Millom Aviation & Military Museum Closure #1133931
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Yes – heard on Sunday at Millom that the Swift was heading to Brooklands, also that the Balliol has been sold? But no news on the Firefly, which was still there.

    in reply to: Scrapyard Photos; Any More? #1135209
    N.Wotherspoon
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    This set of photographs were taken on 2 April 1979 at a real scrapyard, ie Siddal nr Huddersfield. QuePee

    Minor correction – Halifax not Huddersfield – That brought back many memories – including putting my foot through the Vulcan wing which was still there on my first visit and getting well & truly stuck ๐Ÿ˜ฎ The state of anything that had been in the yard more than a few months was dire due to the chemical ash that seemed to cover everything – I remember the Bristol Hercules power eggs near the entrance, which we were quoted ยฃ40 each to buy. The pile of overgrown helmets was very poignant IMO & I recall taking several photos of them, also the Victor cockpit – unfortunately they are all on slide and in storage.

    Looking at them again – the overpowering smell of the smelter is even coming back to me now!

    in reply to: RAF Millom Aviation & Military Museum Closure #1138892
    N.Wotherspoon
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    And the Chippy ??.. has that found a good home ??.. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Yes Thanks! ๐Ÿ˜€

    in reply to: RAF Millom Aviation & Military Museum Closure #1138898
    N.Wotherspoon
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    The R101 ladder (lot44) sold for ยฃ30. I assume to a collector. Expensive firewood if not to a collector.

    Said buyer was more than a little shocked when he arrived to collect his ladder – it is a huge wooden multiple stage extending ladder about 30 feet long when not extended, together with its wood framed, axle equipped base and a massive iron pulley mechanism that was originally mounted on top of the base frame. The wooden parts are definitely showing their age and it is all massively reinforced with iron brackets – the whole thing must weigh two to three tons – plenty of scrap metal and as he declined to take it, it is now awaiting the next passing scrap dealer ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    in reply to: RAF Millom Aviation & Military Museum Closure #1141961
    N.Wotherspoon
    Participant

    All in an interesting day and came away with one or two things myself.

    Sadly though, there was a theft during the viewing prior to the auction. If I noted it down correctly, some light fingered individual pocketed a WW2 German aircrew wrist compass…………. ๐Ÿ˜ก

    Jon

    Sorry to have to correct you Jon – It was me who reported it – It was a World War 1? prismatic Verner pattern compass – though they left the case for it – The German wrist compass was still in the lot. I noted it at about 9:30 and went back to check the date on it at about 10:15 & it had gone – checked the boxes either side as have found people slip items into the box they want to bid on before – from when I worked in an auction rooms, but no it was gone ๐Ÿ™

    Thanks Pete for answering Elliott’s query.

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