SUCCESSFUL tests in Sweden of an air-to-air missile being developed jointly by the Brazilian and South African defence industries have brought closer the opportunity for the South African Air Force (SAAF) to start training its fighter-jet pilots with the new equipment.
The R1bn A-Darter missile programme, geared for both countries’ air forces, has completed a series of ground- launched flight tests that are a necessary part of the preparation for the transition to air-launch flight tests.
Denel Dynamics is the prime contractor for the A-Darter, a fifth- generation imaging infrared air-to-air defence missile, but the project is jointly funded by the governments of Brazil and SA. As a result, the programme involves both countries’ engineers, scientists and technicians. There are at least 30 Brazilian experts working on it in SA.
Denise Wilson, Denel Dynamics executive manager for air-to- air programmes, says the project will be ready for full production by 2012 to supply both air forces with operational missiles for their fighter fleets.
However, the company is planning to be ready to at least supply the SAAF with unarmed trainer missiles as early as next year to enable the force to train its pilots.
The SAAF wants the weapon for its Gripen aircraft, while Brazil has several fighter jets including the Northrop’s F-5A/B Freedom Fighter and F-5E/F Tiger II. However, the future use of the A-Darter missile in Brazil is to be determined in the next few weeks when its government announces the winner of a multibillion-dollar contract to supply its air force with new fighter jets.
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Programme manager Deon Olivier says the project is now at the stage “where uncertainties have decreased considerably” and risks are on the decline because “the seeker” has performed better than expected.
The critical tests were conducted in January and February this year where the performance of the seeker head was tested.
The second tests involved a series of programme shots to evaluate the missile’s aerodynamics and control. The third focused on guided shots where all the components were tested together in flight mode.
The carriage clearance tests of the A-Darter missile on the Gripen aircraft were completed last month, where the full envelope of 12g (a centrifugal force 12 times the acceleration of gravity) instantaneous manoeuvres at 13700m altitude were done, Wilson explains.
She says final ground-launch programmed tests for aerodynamics and flight control evaluations will be conducted in the next few weeks. These will be followed by firing clearance from the Gripen aircraft enabling missile evaluation tests as well as a series of seeker pod tests.
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=106895
So in addition to the Sidewinder and the IRIS-T, Gripen is now also getting the A-Darter! 🙂
Lol so many people just dont know what the hell they are talking about in this thread… and it is embarrassingly clear amiga just plucked both those reference static margin values out of his ar$e.
A pity that you and DJcross don’t have time (or the will?) to educate us…
Maybe because they learned years ago that any wave-drag advantage attibutable to deltas is only relevant at speeds greater than ~Mach 2–speeds fighters rarely ever see. Deltas made sense on SR-71s and Concordes, not so much on fighters.
Well as a non-expert I still have one question; why did all three European fighters end up with canards if they are so “poor”? Are Saab, Dassault and Eurofighter engineers all stupid?
There must be both pros and cons to non-canards solutions as well?
I’ts not clear to me what you are arguing about?
Clearly canards is a good solution to specific problems; it that was not the case the eurocanards would have been called something else 🙂
and also clearly there are other engineering solutions to those problems that do not require canards.
Is that hard to accept :confused:
impressive ads 😮 … 4 years late behind Thales 😀
source?
Edit:
IAF has flown Gripen with operational AESA — when did the Swiss fly Rafle with operational AESA, 4 years ago!?
IAF team flies Gripen Demo in Sweden with operational AESA radar
Signatory found this, and posted it on his military photos gripen thread
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/14657/They have got a long way in a short time thats for sure..
It’s also posted here: http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=90432&page=12
just above another post which describes how much Saab has advanced with Meteor integration … Seems they have a lead even on the Fantastic Rafale! :p
In spite of what some Rafale fanboys claimed in other recent threads, the Gripen development seems to be doing quite well…
Not even the Rafale has anything like DAS, nor does any other 4+ gen fighter. It would also appear that the PAK FA doesn’t have an analogous system either. No 4+ gen fighter is approaching the RCS of the F-35, or level of situational awareness.
RCS; I agree.
Situational awareness; I am not so sure if the difference will be that big if the Eurocanards get their updates in the future. We should not compare F-35 with e.g. Rafale F3 or the latest Typhoon but whatever they will have in 2016. The F-35 will still have an edge also in situational awareness, but it may be smaller than what some people like to think…
That’s interesting as last year there were images of a Tornado F3 from QinetiQ used for Meteor trials. The aircraft actually returned without the missile… Appears that there are some things which have not been reported.
I did not copy and paste the whole story. The next paragraph may explain your “mystery” 🙂
In March 2010 QinetiQ’s primary Tornado testbed (ZE203) completed Meteor ejection release trials to prove safe separation with dummy missiles. The first launch of a live missile is expected as early as May.
The images you saw could have been similar tests performed on the Tornado..?
Meteor integration on Gripen
April 9:
Meteor on Gripen now has ‘go to war’ capability
Jane’s has reported that Sweden is accelerating plans to fully integrate the MBDA Meteor Beyond Visual Range Air-to-Air Missile (BVRAAM) on the Gripen. Rapid availability of the Meteor is seen as a key capability for export customers. Swedish programme sources have told Jane’s that a lot of development work has already been completed with Gripen and that the missile is now functional on the Swedish fighter, with a ‘go to war’ capability available today.
Meteor is a European collaborative programme between the United Kingdom, France, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Germany. The missile is planned to be the primary BVR air-to-air missile for all the modern European fighter aircraft; Gripen, Eurofighter and Rafale.
Saab became involved in the Meteor programme as early as 2003, when Saab Bofors Dynamics was awarded a contract to develop and produce the prototype of the missile. The same year, Saab Aerosystems was awarded a contract for the integration of Meteor on the Gripen. Saab therefore plays a key and prominent role within the Meteor programme.
Gripen is the first and so far only fighter aircraft which has air-launched the Meteor missile. The first Air Launched Demonstration firing took place in 2006.
While the UK is leading the Meteor development programme, all airborne test work to date has used Swedish assets because of a series of delays with other intended test platforms, chiefly the Eurofighter Typhoon. The UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) has now acknowledged a previously unreported Meteor firing that took place in 2009. An MoD statement to Jane’s said the test “was was conducted on 3 June 2009 from a Gripen aircraft against a Mirach subscale target at the Hebrides range. This firing successfully tested the ability of the missile to acquire and track a target at low altitude with a sea clutter background. This was the first trial using the pre-production standard of hardware”.
To date six Meteor firings have been acknowledged since May 2006 – all undertaken by Saab Gripens.
http://www.gripenindia.com/2010/04/meteor-on-gripen-now-has-go-to-war.html
07:00 GMT, April 21, 2010 Edinburgh | SELEX Galileo’s prototype of its Raven ES-05 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, the Raven 1000P, is playing a key role in the Saab Gripen Next Generation flight proving and demonstration programme.
The programme has been very successful, demonstrating radar modes in flight as well as showing the effectiveness of the SELEX Galileo and Saab team in integrating the radar into the weapon system and proving real capability in very short timescales.
Both air-to-air and air-to-ground modes have been integrated with great success and the expected performance has been achieved. Particular focus was placed on the air-to-ground capability and Raven 1000P produced excellent medium and high resolution SAR imagery at long ranges.
Trials will continue and capability insertion will take place at the appropriate points in the development schedule.
SELEX Galileo, a Finmeccanica Company, is a key provider of leading edge sensors for the most advanced fighters. In recent months, SELEX Galileo has been selected by Saab to supply two key sensors: the Raven ES-05 and the Infrared Search & Track (IRST) system SKYWARD-G.
Raven ES-05 is a high performance, premium class fire control radar. Building on over 50 years of fire control radar experience, Raven ES-05 delivers greater performance and higher reliability than comparable mechanically scanned radars.
With the Raven ES-05 and with the IRST, the Company will be guaranteeing the full mission effectiveness of the next generation aircraft Gripen NG.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/14657/
🙂
I don’t know how much more official you can get, than the official site for ACC.
Well that statement does not support your previous statement at all, on the contrary…
Because the article was from the ACC public affairs, on the official site. There weren’t any journalists from major aviation magazines present for the story.
that is not a very strong argument — journalists often write stories on things and events without actually being present. Instead they can rely on “sources”, named or unnamed…
No, not at all. Simultaneity has nothing to do in that matter.
Swingrole is yet another story.
so what is the definition of Omnirole according to you?
French senators come to Brazil to lobby for the Rafale fighter
With the imminent announcement of the decision of the Brazilian government’s winner of the sale of 36 fighter jets to the FAB (Brazilian Air Force), the chairman of the Senate of France, Gérard Larcher, and 18 more senators on Tuesday make a visit courtesy to Congress.
The aircraft Rafale, France’s Dassault, is heavily favored in the race, according to public statements by Minister Nelson Jobim (Defense) and of President Lula, who came to announce the victory of the French game last year, but later backtracked.
The minister dismissed the ranking of Aeronautics in the Swedish Gripen fighter NG came first to renew its fleet of FAB and sent back to the military a brief report discrediting the possibility of transfer of technology from both the Swedish game as the U.S. F -18, narrows the choice for the French Rafale.
The basis for the justification of Jobim, as anticipated in the Folha February 4, is that an American F-18 and Gripen NG has U.S. components like the engine, and both leave Brazil vulnerable.
The French offer the best policy for technology transfer, capacity building of national industry and reduce dependence on foreign suppliers, according to a minister.
The package from Dassault should stay around R$ 18 billion.
Jobim has delivered its report to President Lula, who must announce the winner in the coming days.
According to today’s exchange rate 18 billion Real should be 10.3 billion USD. I thought the price would be lower than that?
As well as SEAD/DEAD, ISR, anti-cruise missile, etc…
Wouldn’t anti-cruise missile operation be a2a? 🙂