The head of the US Joint Programme Office (JPO) for the Lockheed Martin F-35 aircraft is upbeat about the aircraft’s progress, although certain risk areas remain.
He also says that work continues to drive unit costs down. From roughly $94.6 million per Lot 10 aircraft, Bogdan says that the previously discussed $85 million unit cost for Lot 13 aircraft is achievable, with these jets being delivered in 2019. A $80 million unit cost is possible for Lot 14, which would be for aircraft for delivered in 2020.
He adds that Lot 12, 13, and 14 will be combined into a block purchase, thus helping economies of scale.
Read more: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/avalon-f-35-programme-head-lauds-2016-success-eye-434637/
HELSINKI*—*Finland’s Ministry of Defence is blocking direct lobbying efforts by companies vying for its fighter replacement contract to add greater transparency to the selection and decision-making process. *
The block mechanism will effectively curtail direct approaches by aircraft manufacturers, or lobbyists hired to represent them on their behalf, in connection with all forms of marketing efforts linked to the Finnish Air Force’s HX Fighter Replacement Program, or HX-FRP.
All contenders for the fighter program contract, including Boeing (F/A-18), BAE Systems (Eurofighter Typhoon), Saab (JAS Gripen), Dassault Aviation (Rafale) and Lockheed Martin (F-35), have recruited Finland-based specialist lobbying and public relations agencies to represent their special interests. *
Read more: http://www.defensenews.com/articles/finland-cracks-down-on-direct-lobbying-for-hx-fighter
As the cost of the F-35 keeps dropping, the probability of it winning keeps going up. In particular I am puzzled that Dassault and Eurofighter bother to stay in this competition… they are both too expensive, and offer no particular strategic advantage.
If Sweden wants Gripen to have a winning chance at all I think they must be creative and come up with a very special package, for instance giving access to Swedish Gripen airbases and Swedish Gripen equipment in a war situation; offer to purchase and operate jointly a fleet of Globaleye AEW (which could to some degree compensate for not having the sensors of the F-35); and furthermore codevelop a “growler” version of the Gripen; and longer-term throw in some 5. gen UCAV based on the Neuron.
If they can deliver all that in a package that is highly cost-effective perhaps they got a chance against the F-35 — however such a package would probably become prohibitely expensive unless Sweden is willing to foot a significant part of the bill. Looking at their defence budget, that looks very unlikely.
Thus the Finnish Air Force can probably look forward to operating a (minimum) number of 5. gen a/c in the future.
I didn’t argue with JSR to convince him. I argue with him so that new posters doesn’t get mislead because of what he said. Similar reason why i would sometimes argue with KGB or blackadam
Again, you raise some very good points.
It is great that you take the time to post here, you are definitely raising the level of this forum (as do several others, I hasten to add…). I appreciate it very much!
Hi Vishnu,
thank you for sharing those great photos, it is much appreciated!
English Electric Lightning.. It’s 1 of 2 Lightnings that gave the F-35 it’s name.
ah of course — thx!
please excuse my ignorance — what is this?
Now three versions exist and are tested:
A – Advanced (VTOL) – reconn/surveillance/monitoring/patrolling UAV, two electric engines and one Czech jet engine TJ40-G1, 380 km/h top speed, maximum flight time of 40 minutes, maximum take-off weight is 75 kg.
E – Endurance (VTOL) – reconn/surveillance/monitoring/patrolling UAV, two electric engines and one combustion engine, 160 km/h top speed, flight time of up to 18 hours, maximum take-off weight of 65 kg.
S – Speed (non VTOL) – UAV/training aerial target/kamikaze dron with warhead, one jet engine TJ40-G1, 460 km/h top speed, maximum flight time of 40 minutes, maximum take-off weight of 63 kg.
Amazing — thanks!
Are they nuts ?!!
Or perhaps they are finally starting to resolve the outstanding issues?
The A400 has a huge potential, there is no doubt about that — if they can just work out the kinks it will become a great plane.
Mutual benefits. Neither Russia nor Turkey can achieve what they want in Syria without compomise. Same could be said for US-Turkey relationship as well.
And US and NATO in general doesn’t even try to find a common ground with Turkey. US and NATO -from Turkish perspective- openly betrayes Turkey in favour of one single pro-Kurd armed group, it opens up an opportunities for Russia-Turkish relations, and mutual benefits goes well beyond Syria…
If it all works well, Russia gets a powerful ally who controls the Russian transition to mediterranean and NATO transition to black sea, and can provide a quick ticket to whole middleeast if WW3 erupts someday.. Such alliance also rips NATO of some hundreds of combat aircraft, more than ten thousand armored vehicles, reducing the NATO’s conventional threat to Russia significantly.
Turkey may -on paper- appear to get a less powerful (than NATO) ally, but even the most recent history (read: last 3-4 years) shows Russia is an ally that is actually honorable and dependable… Russia won’t just stop selling tank engines or machine guns or helicopter transmission parts (like Austria, US and Italy does right now), because of some internal affairs of Turkey that is no one’s business. (Whereas Russia didn’t stop shipping BTR and Mi-17 spare parts despite political tension in Syria until Turkey actually shot down a Russian plane. Russia still proceeds with all levels of military cooperation despite being on politically opposite sides in Syria). Russia won’t hide behind some excuses like NATO if an ally is in dire need of assistance (as proven by Russia’s hard efforts to keep Assad in power)… If such alliance could be forged, I don’t think Russia would betray Turkey in totally irrelevant political matters like Aegean islands, Cyprus, Armenian Genocide among others like great majority of NATO countries do…
If all these good relations break up at a certain point, Russia will still make some good money. If my memory serves me right, even China will get 6 S-400 systems, Turkey hopes to get 12, twice the number.. ~6 billion $ is a good money for Russia, funding the procurement of some 40+ PAK-FAs by itself… Also, its not like S-400 will automatically get useless the second NATO get its hands upon.. all the details regarding S-300 was known to NATO, just like all the details of F-15 was exactly known to Soviets in 1980s… Espionage works even better today, same surely holds true for S-400 and F-22; there is probably nothing west doesn’t already know about S-400’s specifications. Also, Russia will be knowing the exact capabilities of Turkish ADGM network, and the fact S-400 will not be fully integrated to NATO systems still weakens the NATO in a way… Turkey, in return, will still get an ADGM system it can’t produce by its own and doesn’t given by anyone else… That is quite beneficial for both sides.
Wrong — you equate Erdogan and his cronies with Turkey. Many Turkish will disagree with this.
Wrong — US and NATO do try to find commond ground with Erdogan — actually one could make the opposite statement, that Erdogan does not try to find common ground with the US and NATO… flirting with both China and Russia, and refuse to accept the viewpoints of US and Western NATO countries.
Anyhow, unless Erdogan changes his tune I predict there will be a “proper” coup in Turkey soon — and not driven by the hapless Gulen movement but rather another and much stronger and better organized force within the Turkish society. I also predict that the US and other NATO countries will stay well out of the mess (just in case) but that they will quickly work to “normalize” the relationship with the new rulers in Turkey.
Unless of course Erdogan changes his tune. I think they will give him one last chance to improve himself and get back on track…
He made statements to this effect on the 2nd day of the coup attempt whilst visiting the Police Special Forces HQ that was bombed by the coup plotters with F-16’s.
Did he repeat those statements? Any links?
Erdogan makes all kinds of outlandish statements when he is out of balance…
“In terms of the projected prices, they were all to do with the ramp-up in rates and were well-advertised,” King said. “But if somebody wants to take credit for that finalization, negotiation, then they can take credit for that negotiation if they wish.”
Unusually frank and candid talk considering this is from a British businessman…!
No.
I am curious: Why did you not yet put JSR on your Ignore list?
Reduce in radar cross section will affect not only detection range but also burn through distance to a much greater extend
a 10 dB RCS reduction will decrease detection range by 44% and burn through distance by 70%
a 20 dB RCS reduction will decrease detection range by 68 % and burn through distance by 90%
Assuming that Erieye ER can detect a cruise missiles with RCS around 0.05 m2 from 350 km , it will be able to detect an F-35 with RCS around 0.005 m2 from 200 km
But in reality there are jamming as well ( from EW pod or AESA radar or MALD-J or towed decoy..etc ), let say because Erieye is a very modern system so jamming isn’t very effective, so it can burn through the jamming and still track the cruise missiles from 300 km ( only 15% reduction in tracking range) , if we take F-35 RCS as 0.005 m2 ( or 10 dB smaller than the cruise missile ),then using the same jamming system, it can get 70% closer to Erieye ER. In other words with jamming support, F-35 can get within 300*30/100 =90 km from Erieye ER. It reasonable to assume that BVR will be effective against AWACs at that kind of distance.
Good points, however to my knowledge all F-35s in the foreseeable future will be flown by “friendlies”; the main threats to face the Erieye ER would be the PAK FA and perhaps also the J-20, both with assumed RCS lower than the standard “4. gen” fighter but significantly higher than the F-35. Thus the F-35 comparison is probably only of academic interest.
First customer for the GlobalEye is the UAE, which has ordered two aircraft in full SRSS specification. These are currently being fitted out.
At the same time, the UAE has opted to update its two existing Saab 340 AEW aircraft with the Erieye ER radar.
Owing to the flexibility of the system and the modularity of its architecture, the GlobalEye system can be tailored to meet varying customer demands.
http://www.janes.com/article/67875/swing-role-surveillance-idex17d1
It was confirmed during the IDEX show in Abu Dhabi that the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has ordered a third Saab GlobalEye aircraft.
The UAE military’s General Headquarters (GHQ) announced that it had awarded an AED866 million (USD238 million) to Saab for “new airborne G6000 SRSS [Swing Role Surveillance System] aircraft”.
http://www.janes.com/article/68189/idex-2017-uae-confirms-order-for-third-saab-globaleye
So it seems UAE will have 5 aircraft with the Erieye ER radar? (2 upgraded Saab 340 and 3 Globaleye?) Or am I misinterpreting?
Quite impressive AEW fleet for UAE, if confirmed.
The Turkey-Russia rapprochement and subsequent Strategic Partnership is President Erdogan’s sweet revenge from the West for the 15 July coup attempt to overthrow him – he believes the coup was orchestrated by NATO’s clandestine groups.
Any sources to support the claim that he believes the coup was arranged by “NATO’s clandestine groups”?