It’s election year in the US. Perfect times to raise some momentum for the next fighter project.
If you read the document you will see that the recommendation is to not go for a hugely expensive new fighter project.
The US military will lose air superiority by 2030 unless a host of new capabilities and sweeping changes to acquisition processes can be adopted and fielded within the next 14 years, including a new penetrating counter-air system, the US Air Force says in a newly-released strategy document.
The unclassified version of the “Air Superiority Flight Plan 2030” includes a harsh assessment of the USAF’s growing limitations against an array of future airpower threats. The USAF document does not name particular adversaries, but includes a picture of the Chinese AVIC J-20 stealth fighter to illustrate concerns about growing capabilities of potential adversaries.
With the Lockheed Martin F-35A, Northrop Grumman B-21 and Boeing KC-46 still in development, the Flight Plan also includes a damning critique of the US military’s acquisition system, calling for the service to reject pushing the limits of technology within a platform-based acquisition programme. Such platforms are put “at risk of cancellation due to their nearly inevitable under-performance and results in delivery of capabilities ‘late to need’ by years or even decades”, the Flight Plan says.
Not an endorsement of F-35 type of programs, is it…. Also, it is surprising that they expect to lose air superiority post 2030 after investing so much in the F-22 and F-35, two of the most expensive R&D programs ever run on this planet, and the latter not even completed yet.
Out-of-date 10-15 years after it’s completed…?
Certainly not negative to F-35 but I have already identified two such assumptions that favour the SH and Eurofighter. Those being the threats the aircraft were graded against, very vanilla in nature and frankly more likely to be encountered in 2015 than 2035, and the sustainment costings out to 2055 where the Danes are likely to be the only operator of at least one of the aircraft and possibly both.
If you look at the “air superiority” link I provided on the previous page one may indeed wonder if the F-35 will be fully able to meet all threats post 2030… So perhaps that’s why they decided to go for “present day” threats?
Why does sustainment cost to 2055 favor SH and/or Typhoon?
Those are NATO-countries which do not need large armed forces. Or so the thinking goes.
Well Sweden is actually not a NATO country… anyway, let’s wait and see.
Yes, the official line is that Air Force expects to maintain current number of fighters – ie. 60+ airframes. No indication whatsoever has come out about lower force level.
Officially no, but Saab (who probably has some inside information) has indicated 40-60 fighter jets. Where do they have this from? perhaps something from the RFI package? Which is not official information…
The only thing I have heard from Saab is that they are expecting a 40+ requirement in Finland. As I said most communication about the program from Finnish officials, from the last year, seems to indicate that there is a will to keep the current number of fighters.
Yes, but if you look at other European countries that are in the process of buying new fighter jets, then (with the notable exception of oil-rich Norway) the numbers tend to end at the very low end; this includes the Netherlands, Denmark, and Sweden. Even 60 Gripen would be too expensive for Finland. The numbers will come down. Or they have to sacrifice something else (but what? The army? the navy?)
Interesting, Eurofighter in Q13 refers to the Litening IV pod. The Danish F-16 today have the Litening III, which is the same as the Typhoons have today. Could that be one of the reasons why the Typhoon scored at the same level as the F-16 for the NTISR, and perhaps also SCAR?
Edit: Oops sorry it seems I got that wrong, it seems the Danish F-16 actually have the Litening G4 (which I assume is the same as “Litening IV”?)
Edit2: Oops again, the Typhoon actually scored lower than the F-16 on the SCAR. Note to self: think twice before posting…
Emerging integrated and networked air-to-air, surface-to-air, space and cyberspace threats, as
well as aging and shrinking fleets of US weapon systems, threaten the Air Force’s ability to
provide air superiority at the times and places required in the highly contested operational
environments of 2030 and beyond.Threat capabilities are likely to advance along two major vectors over the next 15
years. First, traditional threat systems will continue to evolve and proliferate. Along this
threat vector are advanced fighter aircraft, sensors, and weapons. While near-peers have most
of these capabilities today, advanced air and surface threats are spreading to other countries
around the world. Air superiority forces will face growing numbers of these threats across a
wide range of locations and scenarios in 2030.The second threat vector is a series of comprehensive capabilities with a less predictable
impact on warfare. These include increased threat capabilities to negate our advantages in
the space domain, increased quantity and sophistication of cyberspace threats, and air threats
including hypersonic weapons, low observable cruise missiles, and sophisticated conventional
ballistic missile systems. How, when and where these capabilities emerge is less clear, but it is
certain air superiority forces will face many of these threats by 2030.The Air Force’s projected force structure in 2030 is not capable of fighting and winning
against this array of potential adversary capabilities. Developing and delivering air superiority
for the highly contested environment in 2030 requires a multi-domain focus on capabilities and
capacity. Importantly, the rapidly changing operational environment means the Air Force can
no longer afford to develop weapon systems on the linear acquisition and development timelines
using traditional approaches. Air superiority capability development requires adaptable,
affordable and agile processes with increasing collaboration between science & technology
(S&T), acquisition, requirements and industry professionals. Failure to adopt agile acquisition
approaches is not an option. The traditional approach guarantees adversary cycles will outpace
U.S. development, resulting in “late-to-need” delivery of critical warfighting capabilities and
technologically superior adversary forces.
http://www.af.mil/Portals/1/documents/airpower/Air%20Superiority%202030%20Flight%20Plan.pdf
I am a bit surprised by this — 2030 is not so far away, and the F-35 (supported by F-22) will not be good enough?
Or would something I said a few years ago actually turn out to be somewhat near the truth?
I suggested a few years ago that by the time of launch of the F-35 it would be “overkill” for almost all (if not all) scenarios, due to it’s stealth, superior sensors and sensor fusion; however at the same time there is a risk that it would be out-dated sooner than expected due to the prolonged development timelines.
I recall seeing an LM ad for a 6 gen fighter, it showed a broadband all-aspect stealthy 6. gen fighter with a text along the lines of “this is what you need to survive after 2030*” — by which time a large number of F-35 remains to be produced! I am kicking myself for not taking a screendump because that ad has since been removed.
*not exact quote.
In any evaluation this complex there will be opportunities to gripe about one assumption or another.
If the evaluation was unbiased and the issues are simply due to a very complex evaluation, then you would assume that the number of assumptions negatively affecting each a/c would be uniformly distributed — can you please give some examples of odd assumptions in the Danish eval that has a negative impact on the F-35 and not the competition (SH and/or Typhoon)?
Boeing should study this list of questions carefully — perhaps it can “inspire” them to ask further questions.
I have not been impressed by how Boeing has handled this — but then again, the evaluation is so damning that they probably realize they would be wasting their time poking holes in the process. Which also begs the question why the Germans are pushing this?
Questions being asked in Denmark:
http://nytkampfly.dk/archives/8726
One does get the impression that the selection process was somewhat biased….
Eurofighter is asking questions to the Danish eval committee.
http://nytkampfly.dk/archives/8726
They are asking some very interesting questions — not that any decisions will be changed of course…
jwcook where are you!? 🙂
Committee recommendations will eventually be subject to a vote in the Bulgarian National Assembly.
Saab has been trying to sell Gripen to Bulgaria for several years. In 2006 a proposal was about 16 aircraft to the country, in response to a formal request and with several financing proposals. In the same year opened the Saab Gripen and a representative office in Sofia.
In the current process, where 16 planes still is what is on the agenda, is under the defense-aerospace two options alongside Griffin: Eurofighter and used American F-16s, planes now owned by Bulgaria’s NATO Alliance Partner Portugal.
Eurofighter plane are regarded as too expensive by officials in the Defense Ministry, according to the news site, so the choice really is between Gripen and the used planes.
The Bulgarian Air Force goes on to advocate new aircraft, then used these have a limited life and eventually becomes more expensive than new.
Google translated from: http://www.di.se/finansiell-information/telegram/?NewsId=119eb4c6-f64f-4fb8-880c-5f8913ff1013
The NSM missiles now have certified land attack capabilities:
The pictures were taken on Monday night, and shows how a missile from the corvette KNM “Storm” smashes a full scale model of a hostile control center in Andfjorden.
– This increases our overall military capabilities significantly. Now the Norwegian navy able to attack targets on land, with a weapon system that has a long range and high precision, says information officer in the Navy, Commander Per Rostad, VG.
Google translated from: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/forsvaret/norges-ukjente-supervaapen-marinefartoeyene-har-kryssermissiler/a/23698144/
This morning there was also a video but now I cannot find it!?
Edit: found it: http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/128293/sjoeforsvarets-ukjente-supervaapen
Tue May 31, 2016 11:39am IST
Dassault Aviation is ready to sign a contract with India at any moment, but the ball is in India’s court, chief executive Eric Trappier told French daily Les Echos in an interview published on Tuesday.
Asked about reports in Indian media that a bank guarantee was required for the deal, he said that was not the case since the deal was already guaranteed by the French state.
Full story: http://in.reuters.com/article/dassault-india-jets-idINKCN0YM0GD