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  • in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2173677
    Loke
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    Don’t take me wrong, there is certainly a balance of op condition where owning Meteor will bring a distinct advantage, but those occurrence are getting scarce when J20 or PakFa are the new norm.

    We are talking about the situation today, not in 10 or 20 years… Why do you change the topic to a “future scenario”? Or do you really believe that J-20 and PAK FA are operational today?

    in reply to: Finland Air Force #2173890
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    That only works if Gripen E is cheaper but it’s not.

    You do know that in previous competitions Gripen E was found to be significantly cheaper than Rafale and Typhoon, and also found to be cheaper than SH?

    If Gripen E is more expensive than F-35 and significantly cheaper than Rafale/Typhoon, then we can conclude that the cost differential between Rafale/Typhoon and F-35 is massive. Which again raises the question why Dassault and Eurofighter bother to bid in competitions where the F-35 is participating… why would anybody buy an a/c that is much much more expensive and at the same time technically inferior?

    Another big mistake people make is to look a the purchasing cost only, and not look at basing costs, operating costs, etc.

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2174058
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    Barring F-22 Huskit seems to rate Meteor as the crucial factor in determining the most effective BVR fighter. When Rafale gets it, Rafale will no doubt take number 2 position from Gripen… until Typhoon is equipped with Meteor, too, when Typhoon will displace Rafale as number 2.

    The point is that as long as the opponent does not have anything similar to Meteor (and also does not fly the F-22), Gripen will be in a good position.

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2174074
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    Huskit ranks the “top BVR fighters of 2016”; surprise entry at 2nd.

    https://hushkit.net/2016/04/24/the-top-bvr-fighters-of-2016/

    Edit: Swedish blogger Wiseman writes about how the introduction of the Meteor missile into the Swedish defence force significantly increases the threshold by denying an opponent air superiority:

    http://wisemanswisdoms.blogspot.com/2014/03/dags-att-hoja-troskeln-del-2-meteor.html?_sm_au_=iMVvnQFHQ77tt7F7

    Wiseman is a former Gripen pilot.

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2174621
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    Sweden’s Saab remains committed to its offer of leasing the Malaysian government its JAS 39 Gripen C/D multirole fighter in a bid to kick-start the country’s stalled multirole combat aircraft (MRCA) programme, Thomas Linden, head of Saab Malaysia, said on 19 April.

    Speaking at the Defence Services Asia (DSA) exhibition, Linden outlined the lease package being offered to the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) to meet its stated requirement to replace its ageing fleet of Russian MiG-29N ‘Fulcrum-A’ fighters, which were originally scheduled to be retired by late 2010.

    Read more: http://www.janes.com/article/59619/saab-looks-to-gripen-lease-to-kickstart-malaysia-s-mrca-programme

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2175134
    Loke
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    After tons of testing and validation, Sweden is ready to roll out Version 20 of Gripen C/D:

    http://www.fmv.se/sv/Nyheter-och-press/Nyheter-fran-FMV/Klartecken-for-uppdateringen-av-JAS-39-Gripen/

    Includes:

    * Meteor integration
    * SDB integration
    * New and improved radar software
    * Improve recce capabilities
    * Automatic ground collision avoidance system
    * Etc

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2176546
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    What would be the point of buying 36 Rafale with attendant costs for the type then setting up to make Typhoon or F/A-18 or whatever and having to pay the costs of introducing and supporting a second type?

    Because that’s how they do it in India.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2176631
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    Looks like the real thing to me –

    After hard bargain, Rafale deal price finalised

    It does — however livefist tweet reads:

    Livefist ‎@livefist
    Wouldn’t put my money on it yet being cleared though. There’s a big price mountain to conquer.

    and then:

    Livefist ‎@livefist
    Now, @SneheshPhilip reports that ‘differences have narrowed’ in the negotiations, but that no deal is final yet. That sounds about right.

    We should probably wait for a confirmation…

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2177911
    Loke
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    Saab is marketing the E model with the “halo” of it being a brand new 4.5gen design (opposed to say F-16 3gen design), light years away more advanced than its own C/D model, and on par with other fighters such as typhoon and rafale at relatively lower cost than those fighters. In reality its lightweight design has lots of compromises that doesn’t make it any more capable than say the latest f-16 upgrades.

    Where do they say it’s “light years away more advanced than its own C/D model”? It is a quite big leap though, don’t you agree? New AESA radar, new computer system (including much faster databus), integration of world-class IRST, new GaN based AESA EWS system, new RWS, 40% more internal fuel, additional hard point, MTOW increased by 18%, improved data link, improved sensor fusion, etc. etc.

    So far Switzerland and Brazil has chosen it — not too bad considering that the first prototype has not flown yet. The new F-16V has not won a single contract yet (apart as an upgrade to existing F-16 customers). Why is that so? Perhaps one reason is that it’s getting really old, and there are limits to how much you can upgrade such an old platform.

    in reply to: NSM/JSM news and update #1787103
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    The Navy will soon deploy a new missile aboard its Littoral Combat Ship that can find and destroy enemy ships at distances up to 100 nautical miles, service officials said.

    Called the Naval Strike Missile, or NSM, the weapon is developed by a Norwegian-headquartered firm called Kongsberg; it is currently used on Norwegian Nansen-class frigates and Skjold-Class missile torpedo boats, company officials said.

    “The Navy is currently planning to utilize the Foreign Comparative Testing program to procure and install the Norwegian-built Naval Strike Missile on the USS FREEDOM (LCS 1). The objective is to demonstrate operationally-relevant installation, test, and real-world deployment on an LCS,” a Navy spokeswoman from Naval Sea Systems Command told Scout Warrior.

    http://www.scout.com/military/warrior/story/1659187-navy-to-deploy-new-anti-ship-surface-missile

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2177928
    Loke
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    That was some years ago.

    If the NG is really cheaper than the c/d, saab wouldn’t still market new c/d builds as a cheaper option to the NG.

    http://www.janes.com/article/52239/paris-air-show-2015-saab-sees-continued-future-for-gripen-c-d-combat-aircraft

    My understanding was that Saab expects production costs of the NG to be lower than the C/D — that does not mean that the price to customer is lower.

    From the same article:

    Specifically, Saab sees potential in Austria (C/D or E/F as a Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 1 replacement); Belgium, (E/F most likely); Botswana (C/D7); Bulgaria (C/D); Colombia (C/D or E/F); the Czech Republic (additional C/Ds); Ecuador (C/D or E/F); Finland (most likely for the E/F, depending on programme timelines); Hungary (additional C/Ds); India (E/F); Indonesia (C/D); Kenya (C/D); Malaysia (C/D); Mexico (C/D or E/F); Namibia (C/D); Peru (C/D or E/F); Philippines (C/D); Portugal (C/D); Slovakia (has selected the C/D, with a contract expected later this year); and Uruguay (C/D or E/F).

    No mention of Brazil, Thailand, Vietnam and Switzerland, that surprises me?

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2178010
    Loke
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    I wonder what ‘support’ they are talking about. It seems to me that all this flowery statement means is that SAAB would like to sell Gripen and other things to Malaysia.

    Yes, that’s exactly how I read it as well. So unlike e.g. Denmark and Canada, they believe Malaysia may be interested in Gripen.

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2178013
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    Vietnam has elected a new defence minister to lead the country’s continuing programme of military modernisation.

    http://www.janes.com/article/59429/vietnam-elects-new-defence-minister-to-drive-modernisation

    According to some sources the international press, Vietnam has expressed interest in aircraft Gripen E / F to replace the interceptor MiG-21 retirement. However, the price is a huge barrier.

    Google translated from: http://tintuc.vn/quan-su/tiem-kich-jas-39-gripen-viet-nam-quan-tam-co-them-hang-nong-117320

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2178015
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    From Corporal Frisk (Finnish blogger):

    An interesting comment was also made with regards to the Finnish HX-program, where Saab said they expected it to be in the 40+ aircraft category.

    https://corporalfrisk.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/saab-gripen-seminar-2016/

    If Finland goes for a smaller number of a/c it definitely points in the direction of the F-35, IMHO… 40+ Gripen NG will probably not provide sufficient deterrence.

    Interesting that they still consider Indonesia a potential customer.

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2178017
    Loke
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    Saab has outlined its commitment to expand industrial alliances in Malaysia in a bid to enhance its presence in the market.

    Dan Enstedt, president and CEO of Saab Asia Pacific, said in a statement on 8 April that the company’s strategy in Malaysia is focused on building partnerships that can support Saab’s efforts to supply the Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF) with a range of capabilities.

    These include platforms such as the JAS 39 Gripen NG multirole fighter aircraft and systems such as electronic warfare, signature management, communications, surveillance, fire control and radars, warheads and combat management.

    Read more: http://www.janes.com/article/59404/saab-looks-to-leverage-industry-ties-in-malaysia

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