Well, currently we are operating type 210 — perhaps we will in the future operate type 215 🙂
WASHINGTON AND DUBAI — According to the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, a decision on Qatar’s purchase of 73 F-15 Silent Eagles may come soon.
Silent Eagle!? I have seen they have written this also in the past, but I thought it was just a typo?
High-velocity gyro-stabilized filming:
Dassault should talk to those guys!
Well it rather confirms they saw too much risk on the A26 from SAAB Kockums, it looks like they want a minimum risk hassle free procurement.
That was one reason, however two other reasons were that they prefer to buy from a big NATO country, not a small non-aligned country. However no doubt the fact that the A26 is not a ready product was probably by itself an important reason. The NH90 mess, and a few other similar purchases has probably made them very wary of buying products under development.
Isn’t the 212 not an export product per say from TKMS? I would guess a 214 variant would be the most likely option they would offer to Norway.
I am not really an expert on subs — according to Wiki (yes I know, not always a reliable source) it says:
The Type 214 submarine is derived from the Type 212,[2] but as an export variant it lacks some of the classified technologies of its smaller predecessor, the most important of which is probably the non-magnetic steel hull, which makes the Type 212 submarine difficult to detect using a magnetic anomaly detector.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_214_submarine
I don’t know if this is correct or not? The Norwegian Navy expects to get state-of-the-art systems and not something that has been downgraded.
Defensenews on the Norwegian submarine process:
I noticed this:
DCNS said it was offering it’s Scorpene submarine. Thyssen Krupp had no immediate comment.
My guess is that TKMS will offer the 212 — Or perhaps something newer?
Saab is trying to sell Gripen in Indonesia:
http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/news/saab-says-gripen-jet-best-option-indonesia/
what grabbed my attention was this sentence:
According to Enstedt, Saab’s winning advantage is a guaranteed delivery time of 12 months.
This point to the Gripen C/D!
I wonder if they offer it as an interim solution while waiting for Gripen E/F?
WASHINGTON — The Air Force is moving forward with a key step in developing a dedicated close-air support plane to replace the A-10 Warthog, a top general said Thursday.
So it seems they are moving forward with “finding an A-10 replacement” — does this mean they have scrapped the plans of replacing A-10 with F-35?
Based on economic, industrial and military assessments, the Norwegian Ministry of Defence has concluded that the French company Direction des Constructions Navales Services (DCNS) and the German company ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) are the strongest candidates if Norway decides to procure new submarines. The Ministry of Defence has decided to focus our future efforts towards these two companies and their respective national authorities.
– Norway’s approach is to base an potential acquisition on an existing submarine design. We want to avoid a large development project with the risk, uncertainty and cost such a project entails. Our criteria is therefore that Norway’s future submarines shall be built by a shipyard that has a long and continuous experience in building submarines, says the Minister of Defence.
The Ministry of Defence has for several years worked to achieve cooperation with other nations with the aim of reducing the acquisition costs and in-service costs for future submarines. In parallel with work towards the shipyards, the process of seeking cooperation with non-submarine building nations planning a submarine acquisition will continue, primarily towards the Netherlands and Poland.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3814
Old presentation from 2012 mentions “Beamed data link” (directional data link) (slide 22 and 26):
http://documents.mx/documents/the-gripen-philosophy-international-fighter-conference.html
I have not seen this mentioned in the recent presentations however — have they decided to drop it?
The WISCOM concept on slide 26 is very interesting — it seems to rely on “random AESA emissions”; however for this to make sense I assume it requires high-speed data links between the fighters?
Edit: the last mention I could find of WISCOM and beamed datalinks is from 2013: http://www.gbp.com.sg/DailyNews/2013/SeoulADEX2013/Day2/DailyNews%20SEOUL%20ADEX%202013%20-%20Day2_opf_files/pdfs/SeoulADEX2013-DAY2_17.pdf
“[W]e are in dialogue with several countries, including Poland. There is no plan to launch a joint procurement with Poland at this stage, but Norway is hoping for a joint procurement on this acquisition. We are just not sure if this will be possible — and with whom yet,” Ann-Kristin Salbuvik, the assistant director general at the Norwegian Ministry of Defence, wrote in an email.
Salbuvik said that the talks with the Polish ministry are good, but that she would not use the word “advanced” to describe their current state.
Wow — this is very surprising.
Saab mentions Argentina as a potential Gripen customer (in addition to Colombia, Equador and Peru).
Are they really considering to “Argenize” the Gripen? The Selex radar could be replaced by either Saab’s own AESA radar, or by an Israeli; and the IRST can of course also be replaced. However there are also several other bits and pieces… it won’t be cheap. But it should be possible
http://www.infodefensa.com/latam/2016/04/07/noticia-gustafson-gripen-nuestra-estrella-fidae.html
Because Eurofighter offered a full 1/3 more airframes of an evolved aircraft for roughly the same amount of money.
Well perhaps that “offer” was as realistic as the Rafale offer when it won the MMRCA competition?
Nope, thats dependent on the production date of the aircraft, not the year of contract signing.
True — however I was thinking delivery in the Typhoon Kuwait timeframe (which I assume is 2020 or so, if they want a functional AESA radar?)
The answer is a firm “NO” see Korea and Japan. Next decade.
South Korea will sign a deal this month to buy 40 Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N) F-35 fighter jets for about 7.34 trillion won ($7.06 billion) for delivery in 2018-2021, two people with knowledge of the transaction told Reuters on Wednesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-airforce-orders-idUSKCN0HJ0P620140924
How do you reach the conclusion that F-35 is more expensive than the Typhoon/Rafale? Has the Euro/USD exchange rate changed that much since 2014?
Also, the F-35 price for F-35 ordered today will be lower than the price for Korea back in 2014.
This is rather old, but the only detailed info I could find on the new avionics core of the Gripen NG:
http://www.gripenblogs.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=408
Seems to be a mix of the old 1553B data bus and fast ethernet. And of course faster CPUs.
The RIG Demonstration phase showed that all today available functionality in the Gripen core avionics could be ran on 10% of the new processor capacity.
This is from 2012 — I wonder if there has been any changes since then.
Interesting to see that the prices are on par with the recent Rafale deals, only differences would be ground infrastructure, training, weapons packages.
You are right, they are both horribly expensive, this is no doubt a major reason why neither has sold so much outside their “home” countries (or partner countries in the case of Typhoon).
I wonder if the F-35 is already cheaper than Typhoon/Rafale? If yes, then don’t expect to see many more Typhoon/Rafale sales outside of the ME. Why pay more for a less capable platform?