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  • in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #930966
    Tango Charlie
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    Here is an example of an Auster Mk.V rudder with the markings clearly being stenciled on.[ATTACH=CONFIG]227191[/ATTACH]

    David, thanks for posting. This is exactly how the stenciled fuselage serial LZ791 appeared on the Proctor and will re appear again in the very near future.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #931040
    Tango Charlie
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    If it helps, there is a clip of film (on YouTube) showing early wartime Hurricanes on a production line having their serial numbers and roundels hand painted by a sign writer. Result, nice crisp edges. I’m sure there would have been greater use of stencils later on – your Proctor? – but N3200’s serial number looks about right for its early date of manufacture.

    Thanks Foray. I will look out a picture of the fuselage serial and post here. I wonder if standards at civilian repair schemes were less stringent compared to factory applied markings?
    IO have only asked the question as I am anxious to show the Proctor as accurately as possible

    in reply to: In 1964, If You Had A Spare £25, You Could Buy A… #931057
    Tango Charlie
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    My late father purchased Proctor V G-AGTC for £325-00 guineas in 1963 and sold her a few years later for £500-00! He also bought a 1935 4 1/2 litre blower Bentley from a side street in Whitechapel in 1952 for £150-00 and sold it less then a year later for £250-00 as its fuel consumption was to great!! Think around £70k for the Mk V today and £500,000 for the Bentley in today’s money!!

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2014 #932046
    Tango Charlie
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    Question please for the paint and serial experts amongst us. The serial on N3200 appears to have sharp and crisp outlines. On other wartime aircraft, I have seen serials that have been sprayed through a template giving a furry, blurred edge for want of better description. Our Proctor LZ791 had the latter (we have the original wartime fuselage ply with her serial number). Presumably this is correct and period for our re build, we want to be as accurate and as true as possible replicating her ATA appearance. Or do you think she would have left Hills & Son in Manchester with sharp outlines? We do know she was in for a serious repair in 1944 with Herts & Essex aviation at Broxbourne and had the fuselage ply replaced from the cabin to stern post.

    in reply to: ATA Pilots Getting Home #933595
    Tango Charlie
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    Tango Charlie’s Proctor III was used as an ATA air-taxi

    Indeed she was Mike J. Operating mainly from Thame and White Waltham. Fascinating history is coming to light about this Proctor with three wartime pilots still with us, all who logged time in her.
    Joy Lofthouse was checked out on her at Barton aerodrome near Luton by the late Denis Lead. Nicholas his son has his log books which show over 70 hours in LZ791. Other entries include Prestwick, Luton, Harwarden
    Lyneham, West Raynham, to name but a few. Many of these would have been drop of/collecting of aircrew

    in reply to: Percival Logo on Proctors #947633
    Tango Charlie
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    The logo in the photo above is neither the pre-war design nor the post war design, although closer to the former.

    Snoopy do you have an example of both the pre and post war logos? I am keen to track both down.

    in reply to: Percival Logo on Proctors #950053
    Tango Charlie
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    Percival Logo

    Flyernzi, I have the exact logo. It was scanned from an original piece of artwork and re created. Essentially its a seagull in flight, with cloud outline behind and sea below. Included is wording Percival Proctor with the Grosvenor Street address underneath. The colours are an aqua marine back ground with dark blue detail and outline. If you would care to pm me with an email address I will forward. I would be interested in seeing your pictures once scanned. Incidentally Guy Clapshaw in NZ has the very logo on the fin of his Proctor Mk 1, we will be applying to our Proctor restoration. David Beale in the UK who has built the magnificent Mew Gull reproduction also has the logo on the fin. Hope this helps.

    in reply to: Proctor For Sale #959716
    Tango Charlie
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    Unlikely, no bids received, no feedback left.

    This is a very complete aircraft, a great project. What it needs is a group in the UK to bring her home and commence a rebuild. A Proctor V makes a great touring aircraft, capacious inside and nice to fly.
    Taken on as a group project with members who can chop,glue and screw wood, the costs would be maintained at a very reasonable level. Going the commercial rebuild route is financial suicide.
    A double garage or large garden shed is all that’s needed for component rebuild, final assembly would need to be at an airfield. rebuilding a Proctor is little different to a large R/C model
    all drawings are available and technical expertise at hand as required. None of our four Proctors was anything close to the condition of this machine, please don’t tempt me! Price is very reasonable.
    Out of around 1500 Proctors built there are less then 50 survivors worldwide so a very worthwhile project. Modern glues (Aerodux) will ensure longevity, casein glues used originally failed dismally.
    Scores of Proctors and Miles types were burnt in the 50’s and 60’s for no other reason other then glue failure with repair or rebuild just not economical. Remember the Jap car invasion in the early 70’s
    killing the UK car industry, think Cessna and Piper in the late 50’s killing off British wooden light aircraft types.

    in reply to: Proctor Spares #964027
    Tango Charlie
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    Trying to identify the casting within these Proctor spares ?[ATTACH=CONFIG]225862[/ATTACH]

    Tango Charlie reporting for duty! These look like Mk 4 or V , I see a differential brake handle with bendix cable, fuel tank caps and various U/C components. Looks like part of the elevator trim control also.
    Are these for trade, let me know. Be interested to know whats hidden in the two wrapped cylindrical looking packages in the box.

    in reply to: Sywell Airshow 19/8/14 – Latest News! #967173
    Tango Charlie
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    Is East Kirby’s existing runway long enough for a Lancaster to take of and land ? I know there was talk of extending the length, was this done? I concur the sight of three Lancasters together, engines running would be something very very special.

    in reply to: Two airworthy Lancasters in UK 2014 #968321
    Tango Charlie
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    Oh my!!!! Augusts pre booked holiday cancelled, this is far more important. I just have to see this pair not once, but as many times as possible. Lets hope they can fly over East Kirby with Just Jane below, engines running!

    in reply to: Proctor Restoration To Flight #994820
    Tango Charlie
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    Tango Charlie , What a great job you and your team have made on this BIG bird, just great, keep up the good work….look forward to seeing it parted on the grass with the Q6.

    P.S

    We do have some Proctor Parts…..

    Thanks for all your positive feedback, much appreciated. There is still a heck of a lot to do before that great day arrives, but we are getting there. The flight panel will be painted in a crackle black finish, its a temporary fit at present. Civil aero please do let me know what Proctor spares you have, we could be very interested.

    in reply to: Phil Ansell (Willip26) #996372
    Tango Charlie
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    Farewell Phil

    I met Phil twice when he flew into great Oakley with friends to look at the Proctors both in store and our rebuild of the Mk 3. He came across as a real enthusiast with a great knowledge of classic British types.
    It was always a pleasure to chat to Phil, on the last visit he asked if we would be coming into Shoreham with the Proctor. I assured him we would and that a seat would be available for him. His face really lit up
    sadly he will now never get to fly in LZ791. We will attend Shoreham at some point in memory of Phil and maybe his friends if they are forum members can attend on his behalf.

    in reply to: ANY restoration news? #999488
    Tango Charlie
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    Proctor Restoration

    I will endeavor to find time soon to provide a comprehensive resume of where we have got to with our restoration. Its all good so far!!

    Tango Charlie
    Participant

    A sad reminder of that dreadful conflict, are thoughts must go out to all those affected especially the poor digger driver and the others hurt. In the course of my day to day business activities, working frequently in London on excavations we always carry out a detailed ground scan before excavations commence. Any suspected ordnance immediately halts work and the area sectioned until confirmation of the suspect is confirmed. One assumes a similar practice takes place in Germany? I know there are UK maps detailing UXB sites, they are not complete by any stretch of the imagination and scenarios like this will doubtless be repeated for decades to come.

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