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  • in reply to: RAF Wartime Aircrew Training Aircraft #1147365
    bravo533
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    Regarding an enquiry into accidents. In the early 50s there was a very high accident rate among trainees, especially jet pilots and the Meteor gained a very bad reputation, “phantom diver” etc. Winston Churchill was quoted somewhere of raising this in the house of commons. He got an answer along the lines of “A pilot has a 16 to 1 chance of being killed during his first 18 months on jets. This is considered acceptable”
    Churchills answer was along the lines “That may be acceptable to the civil service, but it is not acceptable to me”. There was then a considerable drive to include safety training and awareness apparent in the early 50s. See Colin Cummings book “Last Take Off” which details almost 1200 deaths in RAF accidents in the 4 years 1950 to 1953.

    It is shocking to see the large number of peacetime RAF Officer fatalities listed on the 1950’s wall at the National Arboretum monument nr Lichfield. Assume the vast majority were aircraft accidents? Korea excepted.

    Regarding WW2 non combat losses, I would suspect a major factor was loss of control following inadvertant entry into IMC. Particularly lethal in the vicinity of high ground but potentially disasterous anywhere. It soon becomes hazardous very quickly and the stall/spin angle of attack can be soon encountered with recovery difficult without an external horizon.

    Another dangerous zone would have been loss of power at or very shortly after take off. Again stall/spin can easily result normally following an ill advised attempt to turn back to the airfield.

    Mid air collisions were not uncommon.

    in reply to: Norton Heliport Dartmouth (Devon) #1132681
    bravo533
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    I can offer some limited info.

    I was a Dartmouth Officer Under Training in 1977/8 – Pilot.

    The airfield was then base to a single Wasp and pilot with ground support crew. The principal role was to provide “air experience” to the all the OUT’s – introducing them used to an aviation environment, dangerous rotating blades, noise and so on. I believe all OUTs were given a short trip in the Wasp as part of this training. We Pilots also had a session there -it involved being winched up and down to/from the Wasp at the airfield and a 20 minute blast across South Devon.:)

    For many this was their very first taste of helo flying.

    Not sure when it was all closed down.

    Visited Dartmouth in 2007 – the cute little tower has been preserved right next door to the park and ride area.

    in reply to: Norton Heliport Dartmouth (Devon) #1131357
    bravo533
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    Your post reminded me about the Wasp crash. It was four years before my time at BRNC but I recall it being mentioned in rather sombre tones.
    Understand at least one Cadet was killed.

    Does anyone have any further information about this?

    in reply to: Skegness Aerodrome. #1122400
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    Having read this thread I have put Skegness on my list of airfields to fly into this Summer. Realise todays airfield is located some distance from the original but plan to walk over there for a visit as it is the sight for probaly hundreds if not thousands of first flight experiences for happy holiday-makers:cool:

    There is nothing quite like the fixed grin of a child after his/her first flight in a light aeroplane

    In this respect I feel it deserves to be remembered as an historic aviation site. The old airfield also represents the true spirit of leisure flying – years before the tentacles of red tape stifled general aviation in the UK.

    in reply to: Mosquitos at Hullavington scrap yard #1122267
    bravo533
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    As a general point of interest.

    Following the breakup of such aircraft in the 1950’s, were the engines simply sold for scrap?

    in reply to: A-W Meteor NF.14 WS788 Restoration Thread #798714
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    You may find yourself with many visitors tomorrow escaping from the events taking place in Windsor.

    in reply to: 'Shackleton Boys' #787751
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    Steve
    As a member of Southampton UAS 1975-77 I was very much influenced by the Shackleton. The Squadron CO Keith Jarvis was an ex Shackleton pilot and I was sent on my first ever solo in the Bulldog by Mike Coldrey also ex Shackleton pilot. The Squadron bar frequently rang out to the raucous singing of the “Shackleton Song” to the tune of “bless em all”. I can still recall the lyrics, pm me Steve if you want them !

    in reply to: 706 NAS Sea King codes 1979 #847474
    bravo533
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    Thanks Lynx for your prompt reply.

    in reply to: Vulcan Last Flight? #845298
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    Just heard that the LAST flight will be starting in 30 minutes eg approx 1450.

    in reply to: Vulcan Last Flight? #851435
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    VTTS website declares there will be no flights this weekend – 17th & 18th Oct.

    in reply to: Vulcan Last Flight? #854774
    bravo533
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    Saw the Vulcan on Saturday at Menwith Hill – cold war link there – hundreds gathered. On Sunday went to the Yorkshire Wildlife Park with the family and even there enthusiasts were gathering at the polar bear enclosure from which the airport buildings are just visible. So at 1300 we watched as it climbed out and turned onto a heading for Scampton. The bears however remained fast asleep.

    Hoping to see it for the very last time at Doncaster when “last flight” dates are published.

    in reply to: Lancaster Bomber crash 1940's Tockwith village? #854814
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    My uncle – Roger Weston- was on that training flight. When his body was returned his mother was instructed not to open the coffin. He’s buried in an official War Grave in Sunderland Cemetary. Only found out about the Memorial this year or I and several of my cousins would have attended its dedication.

    The Sunderland burial is unusual as I understood that RAF and Allied aircrew killed in the numerous accidents in Yorkshire in WW2 are gathered in the CWGC cemetery at Stonefall in Harrogate.

    in reply to: Vulcan Last Flight? #857286
    bravo533
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    The withholding of the planned take off time until tomorrow for an ambitious and highly commendable flight designed to offer an opportunity for thousands to see the Vulcan is bizarre.

    Sunset is 1820 tomorrow at Doncaster so the 210 minute flight must be airborne by 1420 latest. We know it is going to be “in the afternoon” so it could be anytime from 1200 to approx 1420. I am planning to watch at the Menwith Hill turning point ( T/O + 15mins) so I suppose I will have to assume it will arrive anytime from 1215 to 1435 and wait accordingly. I am sure very few people have that flexibility within a busy weekend family routine.

    Weather looks good and obviously all procedural airspace plans are in place so why not announce the planned take-off time.

    in reply to: Vulcan Last Flight? #857298
    bravo533
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    Just noticed that timings will be confirmed tomorrow – Saturday….sigh.

    in reply to: Vulcan Last Flight? #857423
    bravo533
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    I haven’t seen any info on times yet, or any alterations to routings.

    They’re cutting it a bit tight !

    Edit: North Weald 1:30pm

    Its now 1855 & I am scouring their website and their Friday email bulletin – can’t see any timings relating to take-off from Doncaster, only the take-off plus x minutes for the route map turning points. One is a bit useless without the other !

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