Shocking behaviour.
I’m in tow minds here, part of me agrees with the thought that they should be locked up for a good while, I also agree with the very valid points raised by kev35and Mondariz.
The majority of people from this Country will have family from previous generations that would have been involved in some way, shape or form, in either or both of the World Wars. Perhaps if these fools learned how their Grandparents risked their lives daily and had to live through some damn tough years, they might have a greater respect for such things.
Congratulations to all involved! How Glorious to see another Lanc getting some life breathed back into her!!
What state are the remaining two engines in Peter?
Autopilot systems sometimes (depending on the aircraft) won’t engage or even power up below a certain airspeed, might be that you don’t get to old girl going fast enough!
Wish I could afford to buy and restore one of those you mentioned REF. They look so lonely….
Good man!
As has been mentioned, Cosford is home to many, including the second Tornado Prototype, XX946 IIRC. One of the other prototypes went into the Irish Sea, killing the Pilot & Nav. There are others are dotted about in various locations.
I know some people will not class this as historic, but the first one flew in 1974, which means they are getting on a bit!
The Jags there (by that I mean the last ones that 6 Sqn retired, not ancient GR1’s!) are indeed on the war reserve and if needed they could be returned to service. They are looked after by the staff at ATSC, they are ground run every 28 days and towed about regularly. They are at the moment trying to get permission to taxy them to simulate flight line operations to train people up in the running of said flight line.
I was on a course at Cosford recently and they are looked after very well. There are no holes where boxes have been removed, and apart fromt the seats being made safe and all the carts being removed, as far as I could tell they are both internally and externally complete.
They regularly have electrical and hydraulic power applied and on occasion are even jacked up to allow landing gear funcs. The staff there are a good bunch who treat them with a great deal of respect. Basic trainees are not let loose on them!!
Signed satis, 31 now.
Result!
To those that complained. If you dont like the noise of aircraft dont live next to an airfield. :diablo:
Says it all really!!
The Answer
After contacting the CRO at RAF Marham I have managed to get an answer to your question. The galleries in question were removed deliberately from Marham’s website because people were using them without permission. Looking on the internal website, the front page states the following;
“The images of RAF Badges displayed on this website are all Crown Copyrighted – with strict MoD Trademark restrictions on their private and commercial use, they may be used freely within the confines of the MoD.
This is a gallery of Squadron, Station, Section and Unit badges available for personal viewing only, to anyone interested in RAF badges, logos and crests. They are not to be downloaded for any private purpose or used for commercial gain without permission being granted by the Ministry of Defence.”
With that in mind it would seem unlikely that they are going to be restored.
Unfortunately the person that manages the external website is not at work at the moment and may not be for some time. As I stated in a previous post, if there is one in particular you are looking for please feel free to PM me and I’ll have a look on the internal website for you.
I will email the station webmaster and let you know his response.
They are still on Marham’s internal website, but they appear to have updated the external website and removed them in the process. If there’s a particular one you are looking for PM me and I’ll forward it to you.
Father served 36 years in the RAF as an engineer so I grew up on RAF camps, surrounded by all kind of aircraft. Loved them ever since! Logical progression followed and I joined up myself in 1997, spent some time doing geeky software stuff for the E3’s then a tour first line on GR4’s, now I teach at Marham. do miss being first line, but I’ll get back there someday.
Perhaps the best thing is I have a wonderful missus who understands my obsession with all thing aviation related!
I thoroughly enjoyed the program, found it very humbling to hear the thoughts of George Johnsonn.
I did fill with pride when he pushed the pylon that claimed one of his Sqn’s aircraft, saying “You bitch!” as he did so.
I was very happy with the way it was made, telling the story from his point of view in his words, without someone constantly asking interview like questions.
I was also humbled by the way he changed through the program after visiting the dams and meeting the German survivors and the people who maintained the memorial at the crash site. They greeted each other like long lost friends or loved ones, not like the enemies they were some 65 years ago.
Well done Channel 5, more programs like this please!