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  • in reply to: General Petraeus v General Hostage: Could the USAF be wrong? #2234553
    thobbes
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    The push is clearly for A-10 to be retired early as a budget saving measure – this means retiring before 2020.

    The C-130 fleet is to be reduced in terms of overall numbers. The new C-130Js are replacing older C-130E (retired) and C-130Hs but certainly not on a 1:1 basis.

    And the USAF transport and tanking assets are in high demand across the planet.

    The Ospreys can’t do what a C-27 or C-130 can, but what is overkill for a C-17.

    And again an A-10 does different things to an AH-64 or AH-1 – it’s faster (greater response time), packs more punch, has better loiter ability (both internal fuel and refuelling) and has that awesome gun on it.

    UAVs currently have higher attrition rates than normal aircraft. Hence ordering less seems to indicate a reduction to numbers of units fielding them.

    in reply to: PAK-FA thread about information, pics, debate ⅩⅩⅢ #2234555
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    As a rule of thumb, the total numbers of all T-50 built over 40 years production lifespan could be roughly from 1/2 to 2/3rds of the Su-27 series. That makes ca 810 Su-27s + ca 480 Su-30s + say 100 Su-35s + 120 odd Su-34s = between 750 and 1000 T-50s serving in Russia, India, Algeria, Vietnam, maybe even Kazakhstan….

    Cannot see much demand elsewhere.. My 0.02 only

    Have the Russians come out with any estimated production numbers for T-50?

    All I’ve seen is 10 x Preproduction + first batch of 60 production aircraft post 2016.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234556
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    There is no Mach 2.5 2500km range missile. The Long Sword is a typical subsonic cruise missile, based on studies of the Soviet Granat.

    Nothing less, nothing more.

    Fair point. I don’t know much about Cruise Missiles.

    Even if the Chinese did have super awesome cruise missiles that were better than anything Russian/American, there’s still the issues of geography and opfor defences to overcome.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234557
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    Seriously, why do you guys insist on responding to this kid/paid bot?

    Laugh at his posts, move on. Saves a lot of forum space.

    2500km mach 2.5 missiles? bahahahaha.

    Problem is no-one else discusses anything interesting.

    It’s all my “theoretical plane is better than your theoretical plane cause it can have X installed on it.”

    I say theoretical cause a lot of the abilities mentioned on the many posts have not been acquired or even ordered for actual squadron service.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234561
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    Numbers alone do not determine the winner of a battle. Take the Battle of Britain, where numerically inferior British planes beat off numerically superior German planes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

    Not to mention each J-10B can simultaneously engage up to 4 or 6 enemy planes.

    Even if to does everything you say, it’s still a short range fighter that’s useless for long range missions without air refuelling tankers that China doesn’t have, nor will have by 2025 or even 2030.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234606
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    Distance from CHina to Guam is 3,000+ kilometres and that assumes straight flying over Taiwan and Philippines.

    Any detours to avoid defences ala AEGIS warships, jammers and F-22s means you lose out on range.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Guam_in_Oceania_%28-mini_map_-rivers%29.svg/250px-Guam_in_Oceania_%28-mini_map_-rivers%29.svg.png

    Mach 2.5 might seem fast but the Americans had fleet defence tactics based on tackling Mach 3 P-270 Moskits.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234620
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    And how are you launching those CJ-10s?

    Via ancient and slow H-6Ks?

    This assumes ROCAF is destroyed and assumes no prepositioned US assets in Philippines or US naval forces in the Western Pacific. H-6s are toast for any AEGIS ship or US/allied combat aircraft.

    It was easier for the Russians who had open access to Pacific and who could attempt to flood a target with multiple regiments of supersonic Tu-22Ms and backed up by a healthy fleet of jammers.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234626
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    I don’t think the J-10B is of great value to the PLAAF against the Americans except for mainland defence.

    Reason is simple: short range.

    It’s fine for operations against Taiwan but anything else it gets very limited. And unlike USAF, China’s air refuelling fleet is pitifully small and won’t be much bigger by 2025.

    In this scenario, it’d probably be best to expend the J-10s against Taiwan and keep the Flankers for ops against US/Japanese.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234634
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    Chances are the US would not get involved. Let’s suppose somehow that the US does get involved. Quantitative advantage of American forces would be neutralized by qualitative edge of Chinese forces. Type 052D is superior to any warship of the US navy. J-10B is superior to any war jet of the US air force except possibly F-22. J-10B and KJ-2000 combo has no rival in the US air force. The US cannot hold a prolonged war against China. 1 billion + people is simply too much.

    Qualitative edge? I seriously doubt the Chinese have qualitative edge in terms of tactics and training. PLA is an untried force. It’s last war in 1979 was attrociously handled.

    And even technologically, your high end is very small compared to USA. A third of your airforce is still based on MiG-19 MiG-21F-13 and MiG-21MF (aka Q-5, J-7, J-8). The average tank is still a T-54 derivative (Type 59/69/79).

    As for 1 billion people, are you just going to hand every man and his dog an Ak-47 (sorry Type 56 and 81) and some floatation rings and tell them to start paddling to Japan?

    in reply to: General Petraeus v General Hostage: Could the USAF be wrong? #2234635
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    Politics and diplomacy dictates that proper US/USN/USMC manned combat aircraft are not used in these kind of operations.

    The drones used in these ops are usually CIA operated and not USAF assets. Same actually applied to CIA operated U-2s. The other option was to use foreign operated aircraft such as Taiwanese or RAF piloted U-2s. But these are recce birds not combat jets.

    Or are we going to start assigning F-35s and LRSBs to CIA?

    Also if Israelis can shut down Syrian AD without a need for stealth jets, then surely the US can do the same to ancient Iranian AD system (mainly supplied by US) or relatively archaic Pakistani one.

    Finally F-35 sucks for these kind of long range ops as does F-16/F/A-18 etc.

    If you’re flying to Pakistan, you need to be launching from either a carrier or airbase ala Diego Garcia. If Pakistanis are hostile, then you don’t want your tankers flying close enough for them to launch a potential intercept mission.

    Same actually applies to Iran – the Iranians won’t be dumb enough to set up their training camps on the coast. They’ll be far inland.

    In this case B-2 or LRSB or Tomahawk are far better solutions.

    And what happens when the Americans are fighting the next COIN ala Afghanistan or Iraq or Vietnam

    F-35s for CAS, C-17s for resupplying firebases? No wonder US is going broke.

    in reply to: What if De Gaulle and Pompidou never had an embargo on Israel? #2234642
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    Whilst the French embargo was a publicity stunt, it did have the impact of Israel switching nearly exclusively to American aircraft even when they weren’t funded by US Congress.

    France lost a major customer in the form of Israel. It gained Arab ones, but the big ones here were gone too thanks to either US influence (Egypt) or international sanctions followed by regime collapse (Iraq, Libya).

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 17 #2234688
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    Scooter doesn’t believe anyone unless they’re part of the JSF program. It’s a religious thing. :eagerness:

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234690
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    In the event of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, suppose the US somehow gets involved, American strategy would be to have a quick war whereas Chinese strategy would be to fight a dragged out war lasting as long as years because America cannot afford to fight a bogged down war halfway around the world given its weak economic situation.

    Geez what happened in 1941-45?

    US went from an economic depression (current situation is nowhere near as bad) to fighting major campaigns in Atlantic and Pacific whilst providing huge amounts of materiel for its allies.

    Also long war is bad for China – China automatically loses access to virtually all Pacific and SE Asian trade routes.

    This is due to simnple geography – China doesn’t have direct access to Pacific and is ringed by US allies – South Korea, Japan, Philippines to the Pacific and at least Singapore and Thailand and probably Malaysia and Indonesia to the south. Oh and any Chinese container ship/tanker that manages to get through to Indian Ocean somehow will be easy prey for whatever SSNs or Australia based MPA’s are around.

    It loses all it’s imports to wealthy USA, Europe and Middle East.

    China would have to launch invasions of Japan or SE Asia to capture essential sealanes. China does not have capacity to do this now or in 2025. It would spread Chinese forces too thinly.

    Remember US+allies (Japan, Australia, Taiwan and possibly South Korea) outnumber PLA in terms of ships, submarines and aircraft. Throw in Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia etc and that outnumbering is even more problematic.

    So it’s losing cash flow and it’s losing access to oil and other resources. Meanwhile it’s also losing high value military assets – Taiwan would not just surrender and neither would Japan.

    There’s also greater risk of US striking mainland China too. China in the meantime has virtually zero capability of striking mainland US targets other than a small number of ICBMs.

    So long war plays into US favour:

    1. Building up forces in Asia Pacific – as done in 1941-45
    2. Build up industrial capacity – as done in 1941-45.
    3. Long term maritime blockade of China starves China of key imports – as done against Germany in 1914-18 and 1939-45.

    Best option for China would be a quick take over of Taiwan.

    But this is probably not possible. Taiwan isn’t exactly tank territory and it’s heavily fortified. Even once Chinese have air superiority, the Taiwanese can draw out the fighting as much as possible in urban combat.

    Also if PLA fails to make the attack a surprise, then ROCAF/ROCN have much better chance of heavily damaging attacking PLA formations – after all they have the home ground advantage, a great motivational driver (defence of their homes).

    Technology is to a degree irrelevant

    In the long run PLA wins regardless of whether it’s fighters are J-6s or J-10s or J-20s or it’s ships are Type 053s or Type 054s.

    But amphibious assaults are very risky affairs and even when you have 100% air superiority, defence, terrain and even the weather etc can make it a real slog for the attacker. Not to mention breaking out of a beachhead is in itself a difficult affair – e.g. Normandy, Anzio, Salerno.

    Interesting article on Taiwanese defence options:

    http://offshorebalancer.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/ham-omelettes-and-taiwans-defence/

    in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2234899
    thobbes
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    Turkey face $50 billion fighter bill:

    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130922/DEFREG01/309220003/Turkey-Could-Face-Huge-Fighter-Bill

    This includes $16 billion for F-35.

    TF-X chews up the rest.

    Turks are hoping each TF-X would be about $100 million a piece.

    Some people think even this is optimistic.

    A saner approach would be to licence produce F-35s!

    in reply to: Military Aviation News-2013 #2234901
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