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  • in reply to: Dassault Rafale, News & Discussion (XV) #2234940
    thobbes
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    manual loaders are only as good as.. the manual loader.

    Which is still better than your average tank autoloader.

    the Challenger has received few updates in comparison to the other tanks and its to the point where some in the Royal Army are thinking of even replacing it with another type!

    Nothing formal about a Challenger replacement. Given Challenger fleet has shrunk to about 200 operational tanks, I doubt the Brits will be pursuing another indigenous tank.

    the LeClerc was one of the first to offer new types of sensors that are now being used in other tanks, it also has a lower profile than most western tanks and closer on par to the Russian ones all while maintaining a turret bustle. Its no surprise that the Korean Pink Panther and Japanese Type 10 modelled their tank after the LeClerc

    Never read anywhere that Type 10 or K2 was based on Leclerc. K2 is using a Rheinmetal gun and German components such as engines.

    K2 Black Panther is a flop. It’s meant to complement heavier K1 but so far is nearly as expensive as the Leclerc.

    K1 is based on M1 Abrams and is the mainstay South Korean tank with some 1,500 produced (K2 planned production was a mere 400 to replace old Pattons).

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234946
    thobbes
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    We’re not seeing regular insurgencies happening in Lakemba in Sydney or in Paris now, are we? And this is inspite of hardline Islamist preachers promoting war against West.

    Rioting and the odd terrorist attack is far different to an insurgency big enough to chew up considerable resources.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234957
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    thats why Goldust is not Chinese or hasnt been to China. There’s only one kind of muslim in the west, but there are tons of other muslims every where else in China. they are in every city
    I think you also forgot, muslims led much of Chinas revolts historically and we’re not talking about the ones next to the stans.

    And they’re also in every city in the West. In France they’re 10% of the population. Yet they’re not starting revolts and they have far greater reason to.

    Getting people to raise arms is a difficult prospect.

    Also, Chinese Muslims would be easy prey for Chinese army WZ-10 attack helicopters which are superior to American AH-1Z if they do insurrection.

    Goshdarn that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

    in reply to: Dassault Rafale, News & Discussion (XV) #2234966
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    T-80U and T-90 were closer to 50 tons as well in full configuration (i.e. with ERA).

    As for superiority, I’ve read that Chobham armour is far superior to Leclerc’s. Of course due to classified nature of this, it was speculative to a degree.

    Also issue of autoloader which is not as quick or efficient as manual loader, not to mention risk of autoloader jamming. Though the Russians prefer autoloaders so they can reduce profile of their tank as well as reduce crewing requirements.

    The big allied tanks all rely on manual loaders as a result.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234969
    thobbes
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    yes very visible minorities..

    Actually I agree with Goldust here. The Muslims in the Western provinces are not really much of a threat.

    Remember the Chinese could easily annihilate them via means the West would find unsavoury.

    Also:

    – Much of China’s land army would be held in reserve as war is mainly air-sea dominated. Some of these units (and especially lower tier divisions) would be available for internal policing/COIN

    – There’s also a large number of internal security units. This includes the People’s Armed Police which includes division sized units transferred from PLA in the past.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2234970
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    Japan was not able to beat China after fighting for nearly 10 years and incurring a loss of at least nearly 500,000 soldiers. It would be foolish to believe America can beat China in a war.

    Comparison is pointless as

    1. US would probably never engage in a land war in China. Point would be to neutralise China’s military strength and not take over it, which is what the Japanese were doing.

    2. US provided key supplies to Chang Kai Sheks Nationalist forces including air support as well as funding and supplies.

    3. Imperial Japanese Army was a poor performer with very poor learning ability and lacking industrial support

    4. From 1941 Japan was also fighting Allies in Pacific and Burma and could never concentrate force.

    Also you do realise you’re now supporting the same Nationalist forces who according to you the PLA would smash!

    in reply to: Dassault Rafale, News & Discussion (XV) #2234975
    thobbes
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    Losses in Grozny were due to pure incompetence. Same would’ve happened to battalions of M1 Abrams or Leo 2s too.

    Black Eagle was roughly same weight range as T-72/-90 and T-80 (mid-40 tons).

    T-95 was no where near as heavy (up to 55 tons – similar to Leclerc) as the 60+ ton M1, Leopard 2 and Challenger.

    And both Black Eagle and T-95 have been cancelled and more T-90s procured (itself a modified T-72).

    No weight has been published for T-99 as far as I am aware.

    I’m not sure what Leclerc would bring to Russians in terms of extra capability.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2235016
    thobbes
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    Running a war economy doesn’t just require oil for military purposes.

    You still have to feed 1 billion people and you still need to run the industries critical to both basic human life as well as military production.

    After all without key resources your factories stop working and then attrition means you start running out of things.

    in reply to: Waging an air war in North Asia – 2025 Scenario #2235024
    thobbes
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    Putting rovers on the moon is very cool.

    But it has nothing to do with waging a high intensity conflict.

    China imports 47% of it’s oil.

    Main suppliers are:

    Russia (13%) – safe

    Saudi Arabia (12%) – US allied so it’s gone

    USA (8%) Gone

    Iran (6%) – Gone if it’s via tankers as USN controls Indian Ocean. Fine if it’s via secure pipeline.

    Canada (4%) – US allied so it’s gone

    Mexico (4%) – US allied so it’s gone

    UAE (3%) – US allied so it’s gone

    So you’ve lost anywhere up to 37% of your oil supply.

    Try managing an economy on 37% less oil.

    Russians and others may ramp up exports but would probably ramp up the price – basic laws of economics apply here.

    Same applies to a number of other key resources.

    And anything that comes in via ship is SSN meat.

    in reply to: Dassault Rafale, News & Discussion (XV) #2235025
    thobbes
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    Also bare in mind that the Russians have a long history of tank building dating back from the T-18s of the 1920s!

    The only time the Russians operated foreign tanks en masse was the Lend Lease armour of WWII (they regarded most British and early American tanks as trash but liked the British Valentine and loved the American Sherman which was often assigned to the elite Guards Mechanised Corps (which were really division sized elements)).

    Thet are currently developing a T-72/-80/-90 replacement in the form of the T-99 Universal Combat Platform.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Combat_Platform_T-99

    Hence opportunities for selling suspect Leclercs are 0.

    I think the Russians would sooner try to obtain the recipe for Chobham armour so they can make better AT shells for putting holes in it.

    in reply to: USAF could scrap KC-10, F-15C, and A-10??? #2235028
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    I don’t actually agree with the current USAF policy of shifting away from Army support.

    CAS has been an integral component since and including WWII (the “Cab Ranks of P-47s and Typhoons”).

    Since it’s inception in 1947, the USAF has been trying to get away from this.

    And USAF seems to get it wrong far too often:

    1. 1950-early 60s – too much emphasis on technology (speed, missiles) as opposed to basic air maneouvring.
    2. 1950-60s disdain of CAS and loss of such capabilities gained in WWII.
    3. Overemphasis on A2A combat when in fact destroying enemy on the ground is best solution (at least the Yanks learned from Israeli experience in 1967).

    1970s-80s USAF actually learned something from Vietnam and Israeli experience and it became a superbly balanced force.

    Now they seem to be regressing to a 1950s mentality.

    And it’s not the first major mistake they’ve made post-1991. Abolishing Strategic Air Command resulted in massive problems with integrity of nuclear deterrent forces.

    They ended up having to recreate SAC in the form of USAF Global Strike Command which was created in 2008 after a couple of nuclear incidents that revealed massive training and discipline issues in nuclear assigned units following abolition of highly professional SAC in 1992.

    The Army had made similar mistakes in 1970-80s, it reemphasised conventional warfare at expense of losing COIN capability and had to relearn lessons of Vietnam the hard way.

    Mark my words, the US will find itself involved in some sort of nasty COIN affair again and everyone will be wishing that they had those A-10s to support them.

    in reply to: F-35 News & Multimedia thread #2235030
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    saw it first hand on a Red Flag mission in an F15D against a series of fifth-generation F22s. We were actually in the red air. In five engagements we never knew who had hit us and we never even saw the other aeroplane….

    The A2A combat reports I’ve read dating from WW2, Vietnam and Middle East showed that shot down pilots seldom saw their shooter and this was with non-stealth aircraft.

    Tactical surprise is key factor here. Stealth would allow greater tactical surprise of course but then this would all imply that we’ve not got past Vietnam and Arab Israeli Wars in terms of tactical application!

    in reply to: GAO summary of Desert Storm #2235037
    thobbes
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    It would appear from previous reports that Georgia’s IADS was not 100% operational with many advanced unit in storage. Georgian training also seemed subpar as did overall C3.

    Toys are useless if they’re in a warehouse or the people using them are badly trained or systems and procedures aren’t in place to enable the toy to be used as designed.

    Finally I think most of the RuAF losses in Georgia were friendly fire from ground based MANPADS.

    The losses incurred were also mainly MANPADS.

    in reply to: Dassault Rafale, News & Discussion (XV) #2235039
    thobbes
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    LeClerc

    Russian military doctrine favours smaller tanks than large heavies – smaller profile. They also prefer simpler more rugged designs than complicated Western ones.

    At best the Russians could benefit from buying certain French technologies to incorporate on their current tank designs.

    But then French tank design does not appear state of the art – Leclerc has only sold to one customer (UAE) whereas Leopard 2 and M1 have sold a lot more.

    in reply to: USAF could scrap KC-10, F-15C, and A-10??? #2235041
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    A-10s did not operate in ‘reasonably’ contested airspace over Yugoslavia in 1999. They faced no threat of interception by hostile aircraft. After the second day of the war, when the JVR lost six out of the seven MiG-29s it sent up to try to fight & didn’t even manage to shoot at a NATO aircraft, let alone damage one, it made only token efforts to intercept NATO aircraft, scrambling single aircraft when then refused battle.

    As stated the only countries that are able to “reasonably contest airspace” are the major powers – Russia, India and China. Anyone else does not have capability to contest airspace – they lack numbers, EW capability, redundancy in systems etc etc.

    Remember the A-10 was designed for tank busting in extremely heavily contested airspace i.e. WWIII v Soviets.

    However it was assumed that the US and co would use relatively sane tactics such as fighters providing top cover.

    The whole A-10 saga reeks of the same stuff that the cancellation of C-27 (and in past C-7) and reduction in numbers of C-130s does – basically the USAF doesn’t want to be in the business of providing air support to US Army.

    And this issue started in the 1950s and by the 1960s the US Army was looking at buying it’s own G-91s for ground support because it got no joy from the USAF.

    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/switchblade111/Miscellaneous/g91b.jpg

    1991 was a long time ago, & if you remember, even then A-10s operated in the zone with the lowest chance of interception. Times have changed, & risk aversion has increased.

    The threat assessment seems to be based purely on a war against China – in which case you might as well ramp up F-35 and LRSB and scrap all those ancient B-52s and very old B-1Bs, F-15 and F-16s and F/A-18s. After all a J-10 v F-16 fight between equal pilots is anyone’s guess. So much for increased risk aversion.

    In the real world, most smaller airforces and IADS have shrunk or disintegrated due to collapse of USSR and it’s vast military aid and in many instances civil war.

    The A-10 is still viable in most situations – as has been proven by real life combat since early 1990s. In fact it’s proven more useful than F-15s or F-16s.

    But the USAF doesn’t want to get it’s hands dirty doing Army support work. They know in real life that the F-35s will see as much A2A combat as the F-102 and F-106 did. And they know their most likely opponents won’t be able to put up any sort of competent fight.

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