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  • in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2259493
    thobbes
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    2 GBU’s for long range mission perhaps (save weight)?

    I’m not sure if there’s a lot of viable targets in Mali especially for more strategic long range missions.

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2259952
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    Not necessarily. Gun cover off may simply mean “there is a reasonnable chance the gun could be used on that flight, let’s not take the risk to waste a cover when it’s simple to avoid it”.
    It doesn’t mean the gun was actually fired in anger. Indeed, no smokes traces.

    Didn’t say they’ve done gun runs with the Rafales just that there appears to be an intention to do strafing runs.

    As that one still has both GBU’s on, I suspect it’s pre-mission anyway.

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260048
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    Just did a Google news search and found nothing.

    Bosnian Serbs knocked out a Mirage 2000N with a 9K34 Strela-3.

    If the Chadians got ex-Libyan MANPADs than a shoot down is possible.

    With gun cover off on that Rafale it seems the Armee de’l Air is flying lower level gun runs, which opens them up to MANPADS.

    in reply to: Military Aviation News-2013 #2260070
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    Bangladesh is likely to buy MiG-29SMT.

    Russia Pledges $1 Bln Arms Loan to Bangladesh

    Another article mentions Yak-130:

    http://www.hawker.com.bd/news_details.php?news_id=260454&rip=rip

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260075
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    It was called “Operation Manta” and “Operation Epervier” (read it in French).
    The Chadian troops were suported, armed and trained by the French.
    The hundreds of pickup´s equiped with MILAN (read it in French) ATGM´s who gave the name to the war were provided by the French, the training to use the ATGM´s was provided by the French and (just like Merlock pointed) there is enough evidence to point to the presence of French special troops right beside the Chadians in that war to conclude that the “Frenchies” have quite an experience in that particular scenario.

    I am well aware of that. I was trying to be sly!

    Very interesting war that one – Libyan armoured columns annihilated by pickups with Milans and Tu-22 bombers used by the Libyans. The French Jaguar raid on a Libyan airbase was also noteworthy as an extremely well planned and executed operation.

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260371
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    Different situation.

    Iraqis never tried hit and run during invasion. They stuck with an outdated Warpac model. Most of their troops were conscripts that had no loyalty to their regime or probably even the country.

    Secondly US troops were far more concentrated with multiple divisions worth of troops.

    French involvement is limited and the French are trying to get more African troops involved.

    Thirdly the bulk of the fighting occured in Iraq initially in more populated areas with reasonable road infrastructure. Northern Mali is desolate with few cities and atrocious infrastructure. Lots of arid hilly regions.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Mali_sat.png/220px-Mali_sat.png

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Ml-map.png/250px-Ml-map.png

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260454
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    Have a cup of tea and chill out dude!

    Anyhow seems the rebels are continuing their advance:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235104578241293424381974.html

    Frenchies might get a taste of what the Libyans experienced in the Toyota War (Libyan Invasion of Chad) in the 1980s (i.e. mobile opponent able to strike anywhere and then disappear into the desert).

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260461
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    thobbes if you want to talk politics go to the general discussion! You have already had to edit a post due to its highly offensive content, that the mods didn’t instaban you beggars belief! Do you have anything to say about the air campaign?

    😡

    Only that I don’t agree with it. The problem could’ve been resolved without bombs and ground troops if only the West paid a bit more attention.

    Though the use of Rafales on long range bombing missions is interesting given there’s half a dozen Mirage 2000Ds in Chad (though they’ve flown missions as well). Dassault marketing scheme anyone? 😛

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260468
    thobbes
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    Freedom is the same everywhere, and those in power, those who enjoy the fruits of freedom must make an effort in bringing it to people who don’t have it. Yes it may cause wars and bloodshed in the short term but in the end it will all be worth it. Iraq is now far better than it was under Saddam for example, it went through a period of lawlessness but now it is a good democracy.

    Compare that to Egypt where there was no intervention, Mubarak replaced by what looks like a more Islamised version, no improvement.

    Though what is freedom?

    Is freedom the ability to vote or the ability to pursue whatever you like or the ability to impose your own values on minorities? If the majority of the country wants to live under Shariah or Common Law or whatever, does that mean those laws should be applied to groups who do not adhere to those values?

    And just cause you can vote and buy consumer goods doesn’t mean you’re free. Just ask homosexuals in many countries including Western ones where they’re still stigmatised for their sexual preferences .

    Iraq is now far better than it was under Saddam for example, it went through a period of lawlessness but now it is a good democracy

    With growing terrorism and the Kurds still operating their own mini country in it. Oh and heavens forbid you’re Jewish, gay or like heavy metal music.

    I’d rather not be able to vote but be able to walk down the street without being blown up by a jihadi just because my version of god is slightly different to their version or be stoned to death cause I prefer Megadeth and Slayer to the morning chanting of mullahs.

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260561
    thobbes
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    2/ I don’t know why the french intervention in Mali is plastered all over the news like that. France had been bombing and sending troops in various places in africa for many decades, and never had it been so much publicized.

    I suspect it’s due to it being a “slow news day.” Right now there’s nothing really happening globally except the same old foibles that have been going nowhere for years and if not decades (e.g. Palestine, Afghanistan, Iran, South China Sea, North Korea).

    I’m also surprised the news coverage various global warming conferences get despite them usually accomplishing nothing at all except adding to the problem by flying and driving lots of delegates around.

    in reply to: Favorite aircraft #2260566
    thobbes
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    F-16 Fighting Falcon (but not with ugly conformal tanks or dorsal spine)

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260569
    thobbes
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    There is a common point though : in both case we are supporting the population against a violent group of people, holding the country by force in the case of Libya, or trying to take it by force in the case of Mali.

    Issue is situation in Mali is a lot more grey than that.

    The Tuaregs are an ethnic group that has been heavily oppressed by the Mali government. Initial Tuareg insurgents were “secular”, though with the help of Al Qaeda Maghreb, Islamists have come to the fore.

    I suspect this has more to do with French power in sub Saharan Africa than any humanist concerns.

    The Western approach to these interventions has been extremely flawed:

    – Supporting warlords heavily involved in drug smuggling in Afghanistan
    – Creating a near failed state in Libya
    – Creating a NATO protectorate in Kosovo with no political resolution in sight
    – Creating an extremely unstable Iraq whilst expanding Iranian influence in Iraq.
    – Protecting a corrupt government
    – In Somalia destroying the first government the country had in 20 years (support of African Union troops involved in toppling an Islamic based government).

    Only Bosnia was a success but then that had a political resolution and the people involved were closer to Western values. Whilst similar values are found in Serbia, Kosovo is too spiritually important for them to just let go.

    The West has applied same values to Africa/Middle East despite these societies often being extremely different.

    Iditioc assumptions made by Westerners:

    1. That these countries are actually coherent national entities and not artificial constructs created mainly by Western powers.

    2. That the local populations are loyal to their countries and not their family, clan, ethnic group or religious preferences.

    3. That most Muslims approve of separation of religion and state. This is generally unheard of in Islamic countries throughout the ages.

    4. That these people have western style democratic values. They want democracy but in a total different format to the West (and one that is incompatible with Western values).

    5. That civil society/institutions exists in countries where there has only been colonial governance followed by dictatorial oppression or endemic warfare. Libya is a great example – first it was ruled by Italy and for most of it’s independence it was ruled by Gaddafhi. Hence all the civic institutions/society was heavily influenced and if not created by Gaddafhi.

    6. Lack of economic infrastructure – all these countries had poor economic infrastructure (again including not only roads, factories but also institutions) and Western intervention didn’t help develop these. Western development aid was often misappropriated (by both West and locals).

    7. Lack of proactivity – the West sat around prior to 9-11 letting threat of Islamism grow. The intelligence services got lazy. Now the West is playing catch up and in the process weakening it’s own position.

    I recently read an interview with ex-CIA officers who stated that the organisation has become to paramilitary and not focused on intelligence gathering.

    This is the wrong approach.

    I think the approach should not be one of bombing but one of subtle action (be it funding for approved candidates, trade treaties or manipulation of local politics) and compromise where needed (e.g. opening up restrictions on trade and useful aid not designed to further interests of Western companies).

    In case of Mali, France and co should’ve been pushing the Mali government to stop discriminating against Tuaregs and other ethnicities through a carrot and stick approach.

    This could’ve alleviated Tuareg need to team up with AQIM or let alone pursue an insurgency.

    But stupid is as stupid does.

    I know this is politics but war is just a tool of politics.

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260804
    thobbes
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    This whole mess could’ve been avoided if the world granted the Tuaregs a homeland (Tuaregs are the Kurds of subSahahan West Africa).

    Also France supported a corrupt Mali government that oppressed the Tuaregs. This government actually let the insurgency get to the point where it has. They disarmed and neutered their own military in order to make it less likely to launch a coup.

    The French are not some sort of liberators or freedom fighters or anti-terror fighters. Their involvement in their former African colonies has been stained in corruption and blood spilt by the puppet leaders they helped maintain.

    Occassionaly they have to get involved to clear up the mess their little tin pot dictators* make.

    *Except now they’re “democratically elected” and wear suits.

    This sort of colonialist style intervention does nothing for African stability. Nor do the French care for African peace and prosperity or they would’ve got rid of those CAP subsidies and other import restrictions by now.

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2007060
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    Yeah, but PdA isn’t an off the peg SCS. The Spanish started with the SCS design, & modified it to optimise it for STOVL, not VTOL & helicopters like the original. They didn’t just tack on a ski-jump, as was done with the Invincible class after building had started.

    The Spaniards have done the same with their Juan Carlos LHD too. Hence the Australian Canberra class still have a ski deck despite there being no plan to operate F-35s. Removing the ski jump would’ve involved an expensive redesign so they simply brought them with the ski jump.

    in reply to: French air campaign – Mali #2260868
    thobbes
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    If it was edited the mods see the message by revision.

    I edited as I thought in hindsight it was inappropriate. One should not let cultural biases get the better of themselves. :dev2:

    As for Gazelle v Tiger, I suspect it’s due to Gazelle’s being based in Chad.

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