Except that the Japanese have never really made amends or come to terms for their actions in 1910-1945 and there are some even in Japanese government circles agitating for a return to the old ways.
The success of the F-16 coincided with the rise of the US as the only (military) super-power, so political alignment became superceded by economical alignment. Of course the fact that it was both available and affordable didn’t hurt… Now that the US has scored an own-goal (unaffordable F-35) whilst China’s influence is creeping up, it will be very interesting times indeed.
Most of the main F-16 users committed to the jet during the Cold War.
I don’t think the JF-17 order is confirmed.
They are not going to buy a jet if it blows the budget.
They will buy what they can afford.
And F-15 is still complete overkill against their main opponent, North Korea and is more than capable against Chinese fighters for the next decade.
By the time China and Russia start fielding stealth jets in any sort of numbers, the South Koreans will probably be looking at buying more aircraft.
I don’t think the odds are better for F-35 due to price limit.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/07/116_140142.html
Koreans have a set budget and if Lockheed can’t meet it, then it’s out by default.
It all depends on how much money Lockheed is willing to lose to get the sale.
No-one is trying to plan defence budgets into the future. It’s a fact that USAF needs to replaces a huge chunk of it’s fleet in 2020-2030s – the fighters are the obvious one (F-35). But then there’s the trainers, transporters, tankers etc etc.
As for cost spreading out, yes you can do that. But when a big chunk of your airframes expires or becomes insanely expensive to operate or unreliable to operate, then you don’t have time.
And that’s the problem the US is facing – massed obsolescence/expiration of a big chunk of the fleet in a short period of time.
The first decade of the 2000s were in some ways wasted years for USAF. It’s lost them time and created a backlog of things that need replacing/considerable upgrading.
As for replacement aircraft, that is irrelevant if you don’t have the money to buy them.
I think F-15 has a good chance, given they already operate it.
Also those old F-4Es need replacing sooner rather than later.
I don’t think the Koreans have upgraded them so they’re thoroughly obsolescent.
F-15 can be delivered much quicker than F-35.
The F-35 can be acquired later (especially as there’s still a couple of hundred F-5s that need replacing).
I don’t see much of a problem.
And how are you going to fund it all?
That’s the problem.
You’ve got over 2,000 airframes to replace and most of them will be approaching crunch time in 2020-2030 period.
Even assuming $80 million per airframe, that’s $160 billion without taking into account R&D costs, service entry costs, etc etc.
There’s also T-38 Talon replacement (up to 500 a/c).
Although France is not in NATO they do maintain interoperability, which is the reason those citations work.
France has been a full member of NATO since 2009.
As for interoperability, not in terms of logistics or equipment.
I don’t think the likes of Libyans or Syrians or Iraqis or Iranians or Venezuelans were/are too concerned with a Dutch or English destroyer. They were/are probably more concerned with US/NATO warplanes and cruise missiles.
To this end, the USN carriers and large LHD’s are the “super duper ships.”
Oh and if every country had an army just for UN duties, world peace has been achieved. That’s a good thing unless your a military enthusiast in which case WWIII is a desired goal to see how your favourite military toy perfroms.
Aren’t most of the C-130H’S 1980s/early 1990s vintage? That makes them on average about 30 years old in 2020.
And the AMP upgrade was cut last year too with only a 5 aircraft modified. USAF intends to keep about 180 C-130Hs and acquire a total of 134 C-130Js.
That means a lot of C-130Hs left in service need an upgrade to stay viable.
Also this contributes to my argument – AMP is cut so effectively C-130H upgrade is delayed. And that means vast majority of upgrades will be delayed in 2020s thus contributing to massive need for recapitalisation in 2020-30 period.
And whilst 134 C-130J’s sounds like a lot, remember the USA is a superpower with large numbers of deployments and needs for global responsiveness.
Also a lot of USAF C-130J purchases are specialised birds (MC-130J, HC-130J, AC-130J). Total number of transport C-130Js to be ordered by USAF in 2014-18 period is 29 aircraft out of 79 A/H/M/K/C-130s to be ordered in this period.
The problem started in 1991 when the Cold War finished.
There was a real lack of investment in new aircraft especially support aircraft like tankers or tactical transports (only small number of C-130Js acquired by USAF).
The T-X Talon program has continuously been delayed whilst KC-X procurement also been a long and arduous process just to get to a winner. Then E-10 got cancelled, F-35, C-130J and C-17 all got delayed, F-22 got cut to the bone (and was delayed) and other programs such as U-2 replacement (RQ-4 Global Hawk) have not been successful.
So it’s not just the politicians but also the Air Force procurement processes which have proven to be bureaucratic, innefficient, badly managed and occassionally corrupt.
So you have a backlog that in some instances stretches back 20 years.
The Air Force has already lost some capabilities because of all of this – e.g. retirement of EF-111 Raven (Sparkvark) has seen EW role transferred to Navy and USMC.
Meanwhile a lot of assets have been utilised extensively in over a decade of military operations, especially the tankers, transports and electronic aircraft. This obviously uses up airframe life a lot quicker than regular peace time flying.
So come 2020-2030 you’ll have a whole heap of assets expiring and needing either extensive upgrades or replacement. And given scale of this (as stated over 2,000 aircraft), there is simply not enough money to do it all. So something will have to give.
2. South Korea will have more reason NOT to pick the F-35, which will raise the cost of ALL F-35s..
Given South Korea has not committed to F-35, I doubt its acquisition was included in cost estimates.
So basically a correct phrase would be, “South Koreans not procuring F-35 will result in no additional economies of scale.”
That is pretty crazy.
I don’t think these jets are too marketable – there’s a mere 12 of them, they’re approaching 20 years of age (thus need an uograde) and they are expensive to operate compared to an F-16 or Gripen.
The newer UAE ones seem a better deal – they’re more modern and available in larger numbers – though I think the original 1980s upgraded ones will probably not sell either.
My money is on Yank jets – either F-15 or F-35.