From what I can see an IBN is just the fancy modern terminology for a Pundit.
Incidentally, Pundit is a Hindi? word meaning “wise man”. So a Pundit is a wise man, because he knows where he is.
Beermat, I dread to think of one roll in a Mosquito, an unintended inverted spin, from an intended roll off the top of a loop, was enough to put me off attempted aerobatics in a Mossie for life. That manoevre was performed by another pilot with me, not my own.
What I described was done in the Meteor NF 13, which was a very easy aircraft to fly. Hell my pilot even had me barrel rolling the Meteor T7 in one of our rare trips in one.
Sorry to be consuming oxygen, but this thread has got far too deep into aerodymanics for me to understand. Just pull up, whop the stick over, pedal the rudder and Bob’s your uncle.
My Polish pilot loved his aerobatics and would insist on doing them at night, as he would explain “Ve are night fighters”. One of his most memorable night efforts was 13 rolls on the trot, and the G was mostly downward by the last one, and seemed to act in all directions at once.
Please do not forget that it was “Total war”, and do not judge by todays standards. These may be well meaning, but they are too soft and allow the guilty to very often go unpunished.
Everybody, man,woman or child was involved. I was age 7 when war was declared in 1939 and had already learnt that “The only good German is a dead one”
“Spins” or “passes” ? Didn’t think spinning was practised much in the early swept wing jets.
I’ll get my coat.
I always remember when on 152 with Meteor NFs we would get bounced by gash Yanks while patiently doing daytime PIs. I well remember more than once calling my pilot to break for a swept wing Thunderjet F84F. The moment he tried to tighten his turn he flicked into a slow spin and disappeared from view many thousands of feet below. We sat there laughing our heads off, although we did have a crew killed in Oct ’54, when a Yank Sabre bounced them rather too vigorously.
Then I stand corrected, I offered my copy some time ago and was, has said, working from memory (and didn’t took the work of checking up in the internet). Now I’ll just have to find where the “ie” creep in my mind…
cheers,
I think you may find that “ie” crept in, crapped, and crept out. 😀
Thinking about ‘lines in the sand’, I remember from the early ’50s, that when flying in to El Adem from Egypt one could see a rusty line across the desert. This was from the barbed wire barrier erected during the war at the Libyan/Egyptian frontier.
A large number of Mk8, and all the night fighter, Meteors were built by AW, who also developed the night fighters.
Have to agree with Chris B, I was looking forward to this, but was most disappointed. The only bits worth seeing could easily have been condensed into a 15 minute short. And the “white knuckle” ride could enliven a comedy programme
Thanks Graham, but I just don’t remember the flip lid. Still I am going back well over 50 years and my memory, like everything else, is failing fast.
Re a recent thread, how about a polished cup ? and rubber tube from the Mosquito aircrew relief system
The thread title intrigued me so I dragged out the logbooks. Here are the two entries in 1952
1730 Mosquito NF36 RK983 Local and QGH 2hrs 30 min.
What on earth we did for two and a half hours is a mystery, Annoyed some locals no doubt. This was night flying the place Egypt and the time GMT.
2305 Mosquito NF36 RK983 Air to Ground night Shallufa 40 min
Always great fun as us navs had to go to hold the pilots hand, and also to tell him when to pull out of the firing dive.
How about this

Lord Balfours poem always moves me.
Cannot add to that