Paul,
Yes indeed, didn’t realise you were its saviour though. I guess that slipped the current owners mind ?
You’ll recognise this pic as well then…..?
I guess that you didn’t notice my “Work in progress” Hornet cockpit project at Newark 2005? Maybe this was due to being in the new Hangar away from the main display area. As a preference, I would prefer to join the main group of cockpits this year, albeit under a fetching gazebo type tent. I am also preparing some display boards with photographs, drawings, and contact details….
Dave,
No, on the contrary, i noticed your stunning project and it is usually discussed whenever i see Andy from Newton Abbott, whom of course you know.
However, using yours as an example, i think there’s a world of difference twixt the Hornet, and the generic example of a manky cockpit shown below.
Hypothetically if a newcomer brought such a cockpit along, especially a wooden DH type, would they be ridiculed or encouraged ?
As i said, with a few small exceptions, you dont see such newly acquired ‘starter’ cockpits, and i wondered why :confused:
This interesting looking PR.9 never entered the RAF but still gave 36 years service as a “Trials” aircraft.
XH132 was “awaiting collection” at Preston in1959 and was eventually delivered directly into Ministry of Supply charge in 1960. It was transferred to Short Brothers factory in Ireland and was rebuilt as a specialised “Shorts SC.9” with the capability of carrying several different types of nose-mounted equipment for missile homing head trails. Then on to DeHavilland Propellors at Hatfield where it spent many years as part of the “Red Top” guided missile trails programme. Another move saw XH132 transferred to Hawker Siddeley Dynamics for a continuation of the trails before going on to the Radar Research Establishment at Pershore in 1972 for “Sky Flash” guided weapon homing-head development in 1972.
It was eventually transferred to Battle Damage Research Flight, RAF St Mawgan, in 1986 where it stayed. The photograph shows it on display at a St Mawgan open day.
SC.9 was eventually broken up at RAF St Mawgan, however, the distinctive nose was saved by an enthusiast in Cornwall. It was bought (in 1998?) by an Italian enthusiast and collector, Albino Panigarri. The photo of SC.9 on its transport frame shows it in the Italian sun where Albino hopes to refurbish it as much as possible.
And from the same Google (Canberra survivors) site, this pic’ may be of interest…?
Its the one off Short SC.9 (converted PR.9) XH132 with seeker heads in the nose for missile tests.
It was sent to St.Mawgan for BDR, but was scrapped.
The nose (along with the Shackleton) moved to Orchards scrapyard, St.Austell.
The remaining cockpit was then sold to an Italian collector.
Roy…. for further details of this,and the ‘Save the Shack’ forumite campaign, see the thread ‘Aircraft cockpit & other Projects’.
Cheers……..
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I think it was part of Aeroplane’s ‘Project: Cancelled’ series. If you can find the more recent Aeroplane (some time last year) with the article on the Miles M42 it has a reference to the earlier article…
Found ’em, if anybodys interested ?
There was a very good feature on the Miles M20 in Aeroplane monthly a little while ago. I’ll try to find the issue later.
Nick/Septic,
Aeroplane have featured the M.20 twice. Once circa 1978 ‘ish and more recently (1993 i think).
Septic, let us know if you dont succeed, as i can soon find my copies.
Cheers……
….there is roughly four times as many cockpit owners listed in the ICC directory as those who regularily exhibit at this event; and I for one would like to find out why these people don’t have the inclination to attend ,only for the reason that if “we” are doing something wrong, whether its the timing of the event or the lack of travelling expenses or whatever, it should be addressed so that the event might grow..
I’ve never taken a cockpit to Newark from Devon, and if it clashes with other events, that is merely only one reason why (i always attend Kemble by the way).
But my viewpoint is that i judge it based on its feedback versus fuel costs, time etc… to attend.
As an owner who could potentially attend, the previous comments on this thread re’ the decline in recent years are very interesting.
For example, if 2003 was the best, what happened in 2004 and 2005 ? And why ?
Another aspect i have to point out, is that the press blurb reads along the lines of…. all cockpits welcome no matter what stage of (re-)build, but the coverage given in Flypast & elsewhere actually shows that only the shinest, prettiest & most glossy painted cockpits get photographed, awarded, featured etc…
I’ve just reviewed the photo gallery on ICC for the last 4 years, and aside from Tonys Hurricane, Naylans stuff and Stuarts Spitfire, i cant see any other ‘work in progress’ or ‘starter’ or ‘just acquired’ cockpits featured.
For example… one or two have attended for a day with their newly acquired starter project (i recall a Chipmunk being one), but have never attended since.
Can someone tell me why that is please ? Did they feel unwelcome or out of their depth among the elite, or….?
Thoughts please…….
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Because the new member who posted was not aware of the rules regarding thread resurrection. Welcome anyway 🙂
What rules…? :confused:
…. Unfortunately it’s on Father’s Day weekend again this year so that’s that. It also clashes with Kemble Air Day every year. 🙁
Agreed, which begs the question…. just what criteria do organisers use to pick there event ?
eg: always the third Sunday of the eighth month.
I’m sure Kemble’s date was planned some time ago, and fathers day a considerable time before that :rolleyes:
Anybody know why Newark and/or Bill O’Sullivan chose such a bad day ?
Last year also clashed with Wellesbournes Vulcan taxi run !!! 😮
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And what happened to ZD670 that was in the Trocadero in London?
ZHR,
Just been handed this newspaper cutting. 😮
As its Chelsea bridge [U]and[/U] Sonic the Hedgehog, i presume it was a PR stunt prior to installation at the Sega/Trocadero Center ?
Whats the date of it? If i can get there i will be there.
Details freely available…. just click HERE
What about the Wildcat ? 🙁
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There is a book in the Warpaint series on the Barracuda – http://www.warpaint-books.com. It was also the featured plane in a Scale Aircraft Modelling magazine some years ago which had various colour schemes.
Paul
Copy of the Warpaint title just come up on eBay.
Item #6031941820
Cheers……..
Send me apes, ivories and peacocks and I would be sorely tempted.
How about some (slightly squashed) pheasants ? :diablo:
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Dave – are you sure it was damaged in 05? I put a picture of her in FlyPast a couple of years ago whilst under restoration.
No, typo error.
It was 1995. Post duly revised. 😮