To the original question, it would be relatively straight forward to convert a Shackleton Mk.2 to a Mk.1 as the airframe differences are confined to bolt on sections at the fusalage transport joints.
The nose joint is just ahead of the cockpit and bomb bay, it would be a case of taking the original nose section off and fitting the replacement section.
The same goes for the extreme tail section, it being solid and blunt shaped on the 1, and transparent and cone shaped on the 2.
The ventral ‘dust bin’ radome area of the Mk.2 would be fairly easy to remove and re-fabricate flush with the fusalage underside.
However you would only create something that looks like a Mk.1 Shack as the interior and equipment is very different to the later marks.
With only two nose sections, and no tail sections that I know of in existance, the reality of such an excercise is something else.
I think if the parts were around it would actually be a good idea, as no whole example of an MR.1/T.4 exists, neither is any Shackleton preserved in the white with light grey top, worn for many years by the early marks.
eh! look at the top of the Sunderland tailfin and rudder and there is a dark object each side of it
Keith, the object each side of the Sunderland tailfin, unsure if it is an aircraft!?
Make that 20, just spotted Concorde at base of pic.
Here’s what I think the aircraft are, Concorde, TSR.2, York, Whirlwind, Oxford, Avro 100, Dove, Comet, Vulcan, Jag, Strikey, Tornado, Spitfire, Lancaster, Anson, Auster?, Sunderland, Hastings, Lysander (wing tip!), and one other!
I’m getting 19, but unsure if object just showing either side of Sunderland tail is an aircraft!
I.D.? The one in the middle is an Avro Vulcan, serial XJ824, and how’s this for info, it is painted in 101 sqn colours!
…Sure that’s pretty much what I’ve said…
Not quite, read our respective posts again!
Hang on James I may not have expressed myself well there, but I haven’t said that there is little training merit, I would think it would be a very worthwhile excercise. Other Australian and RAF co-operation excercises have been carried out for years. I even know someone who transferred to the RAAF from the RAF and coincidently timed his smaller items removal with a departing RAAF P-3 move!
I have seen a RAAF F-111 over here before (great performer) and plenty of USAF jobies, but I still think it would be great to see again, and there are plenty here that may never have seen one fly at all.
I know it is a major effort to get one here but it could be put down to training in long-range logistics, support, and co-operation with a European force, even if near the end of service training has to continue.
If it goes ahead, maybe it will lead to an example staying here.
Be nice to see, that’s for sure!
…why would you want to put (not receive) an RAAF aircraft with no type or unit relevance into the UK?
Why is there a Harrier in China, a Javelin in Italy, a Scimitar in the States, and Mysteres in the UK, not terribly relevant at local level, but does show various machines on a global playing field, we were all in the cold war together, etc.
Not very important, and I doubt uppermost in the RAAF planners minds when considering a possible F-111 move to the UK, but just ‘nice’ none the less.
Oooppss, please excuse my last post ??? That is a Harrier, will post a photo in a mo , don’t know which type / mark it is but it was hovering above the Hastings on my last visit !
Keith.
I should have got that one, yes it is the Harrier GR.3, the camo wing at right is probably the Magister.
Good post PJ!
Well I haven’t been there for about 15 years, so well before that little ensemble was put together, I knew my aircraft recognition skills would actually come in handy one day:p
I didn’t spot the Lightning though:o
Yes, ruddy long way from Korea, eh!
I’ve never heard of it wartime either, I have a pretty good list of wartime incidents at Mawgan, but would kinda like to be proved wrong on this one.
I have heard of a Sunderland landing on the grass at one of the West Wales airfields, Angle I think
It’s a new one on me, that’s for sure.
What sort of fighter attack would it have encountered in home (or near) airspace in the 1950s?
A quick google found this story about Gordon Singleton, a RAAF pilot who landed a Sunderland at Angle in 1943. http://services.mypembrokeshire.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2008/06/18/48595921e4315
Picture copywrite, Pembroke Dock Sunderland Trust.
P.S that last canopy looks a lot like the one that we were discussing at FAAM!