This thread covers it, http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=121174&highlight=filton
Collection at Kemble relocating to Filton.
Nice pictures thanks for sharing, hadn’t realised that there was Thunderchief or RN Jetstsream there.
That Canberra B.8 should be the RAF Museum’s next acquisition.:rolleyes:
What, after thay got rid of theirs from Cosford for storage in New Zealand.
As a collection of information on airfields, their current status, and level of preservation the Airfield Information Exchange and it’s related Airfield Research Group (with a considerable archive) is definitely the main body concerned with preservation and auditing.
They also work with English Heritage, The National Archives, and other national collections to try and keep a handle on all the information out there.
They can of course only advise English Heritage, but this does seem to be bearing fruit in the case of some buildings and sites such as the recent Thor launch site (RAF Harrington?) that gained listing status.
Re St Mawgan, I don’t quite understand how St Mawgan becoming Newquay Airport protects things, the process saw considerable landscaping changes and the loss of some old buildings air side of the fence.
The RAF side of the camp still has a handful of WWII era buildings left, but I know one of these was scheduled to come down.
The original RAF Trebelzue airfield area still houses some unusual original buildings, but I fear for the future of that site.
For my part I collect and research any information pertaining to the airfield and did have it presented on a website, unfortunately that has folded but I will reinstate it eventually.
St Athan is another site I have interest in, and is a good example of despite still being an operational station, classic Expansion Era buildings are continually being lost, of course reality dictates that there is very little that can be done about this, but to archive and record these sites and buildings does at least help tp preserve the memory.
As shown in the posts above, many airfields have thankfully got dedicated groups and individuals commited to perpetuating the memory.
BTW, if you want to visit a deserted airfield, in my own opinion Davidstow Moor in North Cornwall is hard to beat, it’s remoteness, and lonely watch office makes for an atmosphere all of its own.
To my mind this is part of a new ghastly trend of ripping off information from other peoples work and research (often very time consuming & expensive) to make someone a cheap and non researched book.
The sad thing is that it can rip off years of quality research by certain people, but the flip side is that people can also spend money on these books with very poorly researched, and crucially unchecked, information contained within.
Another aspect to worry about is that it’s not just Wiki info that’s being ripped off, it happens to forum information, so a subject speciallist here (say Mk12, Alertken, as examples) can post a huge amount of information and pictures here and risk have it copied and turned into a book.
I believe this has started happening to a prolific poster on the AIX airfield forum, makes you think twice about how much of your research you would want to freely post up.
Personally I also see it as devaluing genuinely researched books by authors that really know what they are talking about.
Yep, they are all grounded – again!
Welcome to the forum, bad news about the Cosford VC-10 (G-ARVM) though, it was scrapped, a long with some of the BA airliner collection, back in 2006.
I didn’t realise this until I just asked in the tower, but the windsock is odered by the knots wind speed that it becomes fully extended, 20 – 30 knots seems usual in a military tower.
We also found reference to a Federal Standard (I’m assuming U.S.?) that the sock should be fully extended at 17 knots, and becomes limp at below 3 knots.
I’ve been looking forward to this, a B-36 on the display circuit!
I must admit I thought that black paint was used on engines for its heat dissipation properties, but that wouldn’t explain why some radial engines appear to be painted grey!
A diversion to an another airfield was considered, but rejected because of insufficient fuel reserves.
With a 9,000 x 300ft runway, 24 hr opening, and a MEDA to boot at home, I wonder why that was considered?
Talking of nose wheel failures I had to assist with a nose wheel cantered off centre incident when XV258 landed back at Mawgan, sometime in 2000.
The Nimrod made a few circuits for visual inspection before making a lovely slow landing with the nose held off for as long as possible, as the nose touched down the wheels kicked back to centre and all was well. The aircraft was shut down on the end (13) of the runway and the crew jumped out of the rear exit, after inspecting the front end there was seen to be a certain amount of head scratching.
I was radioed by the tower as the aircraft captain had reported that bits had come of the undercarriage and could be FODing the runway, and so I started a runway inspection.
After a while of not finding anything, it had occurred to me that I had a flight on this same aircraft only a few weeks beforehand, and that it was quite distinctive in not having the nose wheel mudguards as the others did.
I called the tower,
‘are we looking for mudguards by any chance’,
‘affirm’,
‘can you relay to the captain that his aircraft didn’t have mudguards fitted anyway!’
Got a handshake for that.
James – Any idea how many Mk’s of Spitfire had Malcolm canopies?
One for Mk12 I fancy, I’m kind of with Jayce in that the only non Malcom canopy were the very first examples (pre 1939?), and the later low back teardrop canopy variants.
My understanding of the Malcolm canopy is that it done away with the restrictive flat section, plan, and profile of the existing Spitfire canopy, and the heavy framework affair of other types (ie ‘birdcage’ Mustang & Corsair), with a single ‘blown’ piece of perspex which is bulged in section, plan, and profile. This allowed more head room, movement and all round vision.
Interesting in Antonis’ link, I hadn’t realised that the Mustang didn’t use any framing at all, ie the front and rear arch.
Also there’s one called ‘Knockers’. Always difficult to order two of those from your average Cornish barmaid 😮
Never troubled me!
Seriously, if these plans go ahead I fear for Perranporth airfield itself, the cliff side with the fighter pens/shelters are in particular are timewarp.
My understanding is that R Malcolm & Co, a British canopy maker came up with the idea of bulging the canopy/hood, the first example being on the Spitfire.
Believe the Corsair had a Malcolm hood, and certainly in design the Fairey Gannet.
Considering how succesful it became I wonder if the design was copywrited and licenced by other companies?
I like that a lot!
I seem to remember seeing pictures somewhere of examples of boats being made from Sunderland floats during their time in service (probably more into the ’50s period) and used by crews, I wonder if it could have been one of those?
Superb resource Alanp, thanks for pointing it out.