You couldn’t ask for better than the diagram above!
is there a known exact, or very close, off the shelf paint at car shops such as Halfords for Post Office Red BS381C/538 and Roundel Blue BS381C/110 of the post war roundels?
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Any takers on this?
I know I could mix n match but wondering if anyone here has brought the colours off the shelf?
I love the fact that sometimes the Sea Fury sounds like a jet, and the Sea Hawk in some conditions sounds prop driven!
On that last sentance, is there a known exact, or very close, off the shelf paint at car shops such as Halfords for Post Office Red BS381C/538 and Roundel Blue BS381C/110 of the post war roundels?
Bit of very basic info here (http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/Aviation/roundels/RAF_Roundels.htm) on the roundel colour ratios, you’re looking for type D (popular designation), would think the actual size is the same as later Chipmunk schemes as it was proportional to the aircraft size.
My understanding is that PR-2 is in a dismantled state in the museum store and had donated an engine to the Gauntlet?
Post#58 here, http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33512&page=2 seems to go with that as well,
PR-1 was written off after hitting a snow bank in 1965, but maybe componants were kept from it.
Actually, what interests me is that we had nothing like the Anson–an all-purpose, all-services, multi-use, multi-engine trainer. Not the Beech AT-10 or -11, the Curtiss-Wright AT-9 or the Cessna AT-17. These were all basically pilot trainers, and our WWII gunners, radiomen and bombardiers mostly got training in other ways and in other airplanes (if airplanes were used at all).
So though the Beech is similar in some ways–and I understand that you were kidding, not trying to make a serious point–we didn’t have anything like the Anson.
Nothing like the Anson, Really?
I’m not that familiar with the Beech 18, but surely it could be seen as an ‘American Anson’?
It appears to have been used as a pilot, navigator, and bombardier and gunner trainer in its AT-7 and AT-11 guises.
The Beech 18 also seems to have had a rival, like the Anson did with the Oxford, in the shape of the Cessna 50, AT-17.
Like the USAF, the RAF also trained in other ways, by using ground schools for training the various flying disciplnes, such as Harwell boxes for the wireless operators, navigation trainer, and synthetic dome and turret ground trainers for air gunner and bomb aimer training.
To the original basic question there is no doubt in my mind that it is the Bristol Freighter/Wayfarer that is lacking in British preservation.
It was a major production type from a large British aircraft constructor, 214 aircraft being completed and used by air forces and civil operators around the world (see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Freighter#Operators). Its simplicity and ruggedness proving invaluable to operators in more extreme parts of the world.
It was clearly a stepping stone from air transport ideas used in WWII to the newer way of loading freight into the fuselage by nose doors.
As much as I like the Carvair, it was a solution to a problem by converting plentiful and cheaper to operate (compared to turbines) American DC-4/C-54s to handle ro-ro freight and vehicles. At best it is a example of British ingenuity to fulfil a precise role, to a certain cost.
It would be great to see both types preserved, but it is almost a disgrace, and a sign of how these types are undervalued here, that no Bristol Freighters appear to be on display in their home country.
Great vid Ant, is that at one of the midnight show outings?
Be interesting to know what the plans are for it.
More interesting (to me at least!) is whether the sole surviving Sea Prince C.1, WF137, might rejoin it and become part of the new collection?
It would be nice to see the Sea Hawk remain in the black Airwork/FRU finish.
Nice pics dogman, how did you light the Hunter jet pipe?
Nice pics, thanks Chris!
Link here (http://www.fradu-hunters.co.uk/gphillips/) to a previous visit to SM by WT322.
Saw an operational 146 leaving Cardiff today, not sure whos though.
I have to agree with David above, certainly on my screen the underside colour exactly matches the tone of the roundel outer ring.
Interesting and different scheme to see the classic Airfix kit finished in.
I think they’re off an Andover!
I would concur!
Great to see the Gauntlet flying, at least the Leonides suits it quite well, the type was flight tested pre-war on a Bulldog.
The engine is from Pembroke C.52 PR-2 which the museum has in store I believe.
Remarkable stuff, especially to see a Mk.I in the air like that.
Well done to all concerned!
Please don’t put yourself in any kind of trouble for a picture rkamm, not worth it!
That’s the Prince, N206UP, I was asking about in my first post here, I forgot that the owner of RM-9 posted on that thread.