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Arthur Pewtey

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  • in reply to: XM603 Update #1267090
    Arthur Pewtey
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    It looks intact to me and there are no bits lying around. I haven’t seen anybody working on it for a week or two.

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1267162
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    As of this morning it is still there.

    AP

    in reply to: Avro Vulcan XM603 at Woodford? #1297658
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    I wonder why it is being kept so quiet?

    Because there isn’t anything to say? It is still there as it has been for years.

    lets just hope there will be so little left of her in the end that those respo0nsible will have to pay dearly to have the remains carted away

    Eh??

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1246764
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    I’m afraid the real world keeps butting in and ruining the grand plans for aircraft preservation. There was never a real plan for XM603 after Dougie Godfrey died, just a lot of “tinkering”. I appreciate that lots of people put in a lot of work that will be wasted but that’s life I’m afraid. I worked on the RJX so I know what that feels like.

    The aircraft started to deteriorate a long time before the “suits” got involved
    and I believe that due to damage on the nosewheel the aircraft could not be moved.
    BAE is a business , not a charity and while I support any initiatives to preserve the heritage, this is just a project that would be a money pit soaking up funds. Funds BAE at Woodford does not have.

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1248877
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    I am still not sure why the “suits” need to hang their heads in shame. Isn’t providing support to XH558 a worthwhile cause?

    The “suits” at Woodford have in the past:-
    – With help from Manchester airport and Honeywell, made sure the RJX100 prototype was preserved.
    – Anson G-AHKX was given support with fuel, crew, hangar, offices etc.
    – Found a home for Jetstream 41 G-JMAC.

    I appreciate that these are civil aircraft and are therefore lesser aircraft 🙂 but they show that company has support to various aircraft preservation/restoration projects

    BAE Systems has provided support to “Airspace” at Duxford and in the past used to operate the Mosquito RR299.

    I know I am repeating what has been said previously but I think it worth reiterating. The “suits” are not faceless characters but individuals who are almost certainly doing their best in difficult circumstances. The factory at Woodford probably has a limited lifespan left (until end of Nimrod production) then it closes; unless alternative work is found. As an employee I hope this is more important in the manager’s minds than the preservation of a single airframe.

    I want to make it clear that I don’t want to see it broken up any more than anyone else but we live in the real world here. If it was in pristine condition then fine but it isn’t is it. It can’t even be moved now. Let’s face it, how many Vulcans are there in the UK? 15 complete airframes? It isn’t rare or unique and I believe XM603 is too far gone to be worth saving. It would be very costly to get it in back in any sort of safe condition. Sadly the project appeared to lack direction after one the leading chaps died a few years ago and it has drifted since then.

    The H&S argument is a difficult one though and I for one would not want to see anyone hurt while working on the aircraft. Despite what people might think, BAE Systems has a legal obligation to those on any of the company sites (including me!) and the risk of hefty litigation is all too real these days. I agree that H&S can go too far at times but I believe in this case the airframe was becoming dangerous to work on.

    Sorry about the post length and I expect it will fall on deaf ears (or blinkered eyes) but there you go.

    Incidentally work started on the main gear last night doing I don’t know what. Draining fluids maybe?

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1250382
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    As well as hanging thier heads in shame the men in suits at Woodford should provide the required tooling, manpower, cranes and transport to have the nose section removed correctly and moved to a new location for the Heritage boys to keep her safe.

    Can you clarify why the “men in suits at Woodford” should hang their heads in shame?

    I’m not sure what else could have been done in the circumstances.

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1252995
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    As far as I know there has been no change to the plans from last year. Anything useful to other Vulcan projects will be removed and then it will be “dismantled and removed”. There was a rumour about rescuing the nose section but it all went quiet; probably when it was realized how difficult it was.
    I haven’t seen anyone near the aircraft since early December anyway.

    I’ll keep the board informed if I hear anything else. Sadly I can’t post any photos as cameras aren’t allowed on site. I’ll see if I can get official permission to take some photos before it is gone.

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1253123
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    All I can say is it still there in one piece as far as I can tell. Looks greener than ever though.

    AP

    in reply to: Avro vulcan survivors best to worst? #1256787
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    A search on this forum on XM603 will tell you all you need to know.

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1274599
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    Externally it looks the same as it always has, maybe a little bit dirtier. I can only see right side. I would need to be airside to see the other side. I’m off for Christmas now so no more updates from me until January.

    AP

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1276956
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    it’s still in one piece as of this morning i’ve been very reliably informed.

    J man

    It is indeed still in one piece. I’ll keep you posted on further developments (I can see it from my office window, as indeed I have seen it every day for the last 17 years)

    AP

    in reply to: Vulcan Xm603 being reduced tospares *Confirmed* #1315840
    Arthur Pewtey
    Participant

    This is old news so I don’t why it is being reiterated. The offical company word released in August was as follows:-

    From a health and safety perspective the Vulcan XM603 at Woodford is not structurally sound, and the group of Vulcan volunteers, for whom we have a duty of care, are therefore no longer allowed to access it. Arrangements will be made for the aircraft to be dismantled and removed

    I believe the aircraft is not in as good condition as the many seem to think. The story I heard ( and it is only what I heard in passing) is that the state of the aircraft wiring and the fact that some fuel was kept in the tanks meant that it was an accident waiting to happen.
    I am told also the problem with the nosewheel means the aircraft cannot even be moved.

    BAE Systems is not a charity and has given as much support as it can but the company obviously thinks the best way to support Vulcans in general is give up XM603 as spares to support other Vulcan projects.
    The company has done a great deal to support various aircraft projects, (Anson G-AHKX, the RJX at EGCC, the new hangar at Duxford etc and until recently the support to XM603) so I don’t think it can accused of not looking after it’s heritage.

    Modern health and safety rules are a way of life and if something happened to anyone while working on the aircraft then we would all be quick to condemn the management for allowing such a thing to happen. In the modern litigious society the company doesn’t want to take that chance.

    The aircraft is still on the airfield so if you want photos from off-site then be quick.

    JT

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