We thought YOU were the local expert?
I’m already looking forward to your book on 2,000 Vietnamese air-to-air kills versus the USA 😀
Hi Spacepope,
by far the best two hard-copy (ie paper) resources for attrition are AFM’s monthly section edited by Dave Allport and Scramble magazine’s “Stoffer & Blik” (Dustpan & Brush) section. If you happen to be a Scramble subscriber you can also download that section in English as an Acrobat PDF file.
Failing that I would suggest you could do far worse than use the archive on the Touchdown-News Yahoo Group that I run: we don’t keep track of civilian accidents/incidents, but the vast majority of military ones are reported.
Just go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Touchdown-News and then scroll down to the box which has the “Search Archive” button alongside it. If you enter the term “Crash” in there and then hit the button you’ll get plenty of results with some time and patience!
Give it a go and let me know how you get on.
Best regards
Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News
Carrier Strike Groups Feel the Pulse
USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) arrived in Pearl Harbor Tuesday to participate in exercise Rim of the Pacific Maritime 2004, the region’s largest international exercise involving seven Pacific Rim nations. The 1,092-foot long aircraft carrier deployed from its homeport in San Diego May 24 as part of Summer Pulse ’04.
Summer Pulse ’04 demonstrates the Navy’s ability to surge forces around the globe, with seven aircraft carrier strike groups deployed simultaneously, introducing the first test of the Navy’s Fleet Response Plan (FRP).
FRP is designed to increase fleet readiness and provide vital combat support in times of crisis across the globe.
“The strategy of the Navy today is an appropriate response to the unpredictable world we live in,” said Rear Adm. Patrick Walsh, commander, John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group (CSG). “We can’t expect to leave our home port on a date that was set a year ago on some calendar while our brothers in the Army and Marines are under fire. We have to be ready at a moment’s notice, and leave for home when properly relieved.”

With John C. Stennis in the Pacific, USS George Washington (CVN 73) in the Persian Gulf supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom and five other carriers deployed throughout the world, the Navy is proving its new response plan works.
“We are here to prove to ourselves that we have the kind of capability to cover the globe,” said Capt. Dave Buss, Stennis’ commanding officer. “In many areas we already have. We’ve proven that we can flex our schedule and pulse when we need to.”
Many Sailors feel proud to be involved in the important exercise.
“It’s a massive surge,” said Chief Aviation Support Equipment (AW) Technician Hononrio Rongal of John C. Stennis. “To have that kind of presence on a global scale is extremely significant. This will show the United States and the world that if called upon, we can do it in an extremely short amount of time. That’s the Navy, forward thinking – and it works.”

Information Systems Technician 2nd Class (SW) Jarin Udom of John C. Stennis said the ship’s performance during Summer Pulse ’04 is setting the standards for the way the Navy responds to an emergency.
“We’re at the tip of the spear as far as testing this new plan out,” said Udom. “That’s important because we are able to help set the standard of something new that will eventually be the way the Navy operates, and this crew and the other CSGs involved in Pulse ’04 can say we were the first.”
Other than knowing they are the first CSGs involved in Summer Pulse ’04, Udom said there is not much difference in their daily routine.
“Just tack on the name of another exercise that makes sure we’re ready to go,” said Udom. “In the IT department, we keep the network running the same as we would any other day we are under way.”
The six other aircraft carriers involved in Summer Pulse ’04 include: the Norfolk-based USS George Washington (CVN 73) CSG and Yokosuka, Japan,-based USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63). The Mayport, Fla.,-based USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67) CSG will begin a combined and joint exercise early this month, followed by a scheduled overseas deployment. The Norfolk-based USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) CSG will conduct a scheduled training exercise, followed by overseas operations with the Norfolk-based USS Enterprise (CVN 65) CSG, beginning early this month. USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) will conduct operations in the U.S. Northern Command and U.S. Southern Command theaters during the ship’s interfleet transfer from Norfolk, Va., to its Pacific Fleet homeport of San Diego.
The exercise is scheduled to run through August.
By Journalist 2nd Class Devin Wright, Commander, Navy Region Hawaii Public Affairs (30th June, 2004)



Got to go now a wash by sheet
See? He even writes in some sort of pidgin-Cajun.
I bet he wears dungarees and a hat he trapped himself.
Blimey, Art, sounds like you’ve spent almost as much time as I have sniffing round the back of places like Maxwell AFB, Montgomery Field and Meridian! 😀
Huh? Someone is using some pretty ropey sources then!
The French Air Force have lost a Mirage 2000D (in January) and a 2000N (in June) so far this year.
I hope those will be the only two M2K losses for 2004….but I’d be surprised.
Steve ~ Touchdown-News
Dis. Just where do you get off? Do you burn crosses and wear white robes and a pointy mask?
Oi, Phil…don’t knock it, Mate…that passes for a great night out in New Braunfels, TX 😀
Anglo-Saxon world order?? The first language of the US will be Spanish by the time Dis’ bizarre scenario comes into play.
Read it again. It said many exercises.
Absolutely, ELP.
I think the Captain of the Enterprise will be surprised to learn he is in “striking distance” of Beijing…it is currently lying-off Scotland taking part in JMC 04-01! It’s due into Portsmouth on Friday and then, as far as I know, returning to home port as she doesn’t have a full CVW embarked (only 38/40 aircraft with no Tomcats or F/A-18E/F as VFA-211 is still waiting to transition).
Regards
Steve ~ Touchdown-News
I know ELP will enjoy this 😀
Please don’t think that, by posting this, I endorse any of these views or opinions…it’s just to show how ridiculous speculation and story-spinning can get:
Indian “super-buffalos”
Joint army training of Indian and American Air Forces under a codename “Cope India 04” took place in February in the Madnya Pradesh state in India.
Back then however the even did not interest anyone aside from specialists. Besides, no one was surprised, since such joint training sessions are becoming traditional. “Cope India” has been held since 2002.
However, results of present-day training turned out to be quite surprising for American air forces. To put it simply, Americans miserably failed. American pilots F-15C that participated in the training, have lost 90% of air battles to Indian pilots on Russian “MIGs” and French Mirage 2000 (MIG-27, MIG-29; also Su-30K was used as well). The results turned out to be so bad that it took almost half a year for American experts to conduct thorough analysis of all the possible reasons of the “defeat”.
Only now did the US Air Force bulletin Inside Air Force has called the main reason of their failure. Apparently, Indian pilots have twice as much flying experience than American pilots. To put it mildly, such statement appears to be pathetic. One thing Americans cannot complain about is their flying experience.
Americans were impressed by Russian airplanes MIG-21, specifically their upgraded version “Buffalo”.
Obviously, budget of the American Air Force is expected to grow. After all, it is a shame to be defeated by India, the country that had 102 crashes of MIG-21 in the past 10 years.
Anyway, one should keep in mind that budget increase does not necessarily guarantee higher class of American pilots. American defense budget exceeded $400 billion USD while Indian budget was also worth billions, but Rupees. In 2004-2005 Indians plans to invest 660 billion Rupees (about $14,5 billion USD) in its defense industry. It seems that they are more effective in these things than the Pentagon.
Source: Pravda (28th June, 2004)
Carlo Moiana: Indian super buffalos RESPONSE
Very interesting the article about the results of the joint training between Indian and American air forces, and how Americans were defeated in air combat simulations. But the article missed the main reason of American failure: Indian pilots are well trained and have good tactics, but the most important is that their aircraft (mainly of Russian origin) are better than American ones. Russians usually have a low self steem about their own industry and technology, but in aeronautics and weapon industry they don’t have reason to feel like this: Russian airplanes like MiG-29, MiG-31 and the big Su-27 family (Su-30, Su-33, Su-35, etc) easily surpass their American counterparts, and even the old MiG-21, still largely used by Indian air force and recently upgraded, is a tough enemy for the most sophisticated American fighter. So, why Indians could defeat Americans? Simply enough: because they have Russian aircraft in large quantities and good pilots.
Carlo Moiana
Brazil
Source: Pravda (30th June, 2004)
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Steve ~ Touchdown-News
Damien’s actually reminded me of a couple more….
I learned to fly on the same unit as Prince Edward (gospel truth!), and even beat him at snooker a few times in the mess. Sneaky so & so always let his personal detective take the tricky shots when we played doubles…but nobody would say a word! Quiet fella but nice enough with it.
Met JN too…in the Naval Force hangar at Patuxent River filming a piece for “Discovery Wings”. The young female naval security person was really embarrassed as she’d told us it was empty and locked-up for the weekend…until she had a change of heart and let us have a look round! JN certainly seems a top bloke.
Oh, and I lived for about 6 months as a house guest of a guy who I doubt anyone here will have heard of, but is a true Ledge: John Howard (US Olympic cyclist, very early Hawai’i Ironman and Race Across America competitor). Whilst there I had the pleasure of meeting Paula Newby-Fraser and trained along with her, and several other notables, at the infamous Carlsbad masters’ swim training sessions every day. Paula has won the Hawai’i Ironman 8 times and also holds the World record. So she was pretty good!
Last but not least, don’t know if any of you are into World Championship Rallying but I also know Phil Mills (Petter Solberg’s co-driver) pretty well. He used to navigate for another Welsh lad called Wynne Jenkins many moons ago, and we had some great ding-dong battles in the Welsh Championship when Wynne drove a Mini and I had a Talbot Samba. Not done badly for himself has the big fella! Nicky Grist and Gwyndaf Evans both came up through the same roots: Welsh and then “Motoring News” road-rallying…shame they killed it off! Sideways down the lanes…bliss 😀
Steve
Well, I went to school with Norman “Fatboy Slim” Cook and Ray “Skunk for Dinner on a Bed of Old Moss” Mears for seven years…if that counts.
Dave “Turning Japanese” Fenton of Vapors fame was also at my school, but 4 years older so too cool to talk to sprogs like me.
Oh and one of my mates as a kid had Toni “Play Away” Arthur for his Mum…so not only met her but trashed her house a few times too….probably. One of our contemporaries married Sam Brown (you’ll have seen her on Jools Holland…Joe Brown’s lass), so I guess he liked famous folk! Mind you, he also produced the first couple of Manics’ albums so I s’pose he’s a little bit famous too.
Kate Bush at Abbey Road. Hmmm went to Roland wotsisname from Tears For Fears 21st birthday bash at Abbey Road too. Hmmm got rotten drunk on Grolsch with Gillan (him and his band)…which was nice. Met Marc Almond when he was recording the first Marc & the Mambas album at CBS Studios…didn’t ask what he’d had for dinner.
Wayne Gretzky when chaging planes at Edmonton.
Still haven’t met Arthur from here though! 😀
Steve
This Week’s News So Far
Sadly, several incidents of attrition to report today:
US Army Apache Crash in Afghanistan
VMFA-115 Hornet Lost in Atlantic: Pilot Killed
VMFA-122 Hornet Crash at MCAS Beaufort
Thirty Refurbished US Army Hueys Handed-Over to Royal Thai Army
Best Regards
Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News
Not really, there are lots of different types of fighters that do the same thing…….
Flying around 11,000 miles to do an OP-TEMPO LIVEX at the end? Really?! 😮
The novelty of the IAF deployment, and the circuitous route being undertaken, are why I thought it deserved a separate thread (see Eric’s post earlier). I’m sure there will be plenty more pics as the exercise kicks off to go in here too, which is why I didn’t lump it under IAF Defence News etc.
You’re right I1973, I’ve since seen a news item that mentioned Newfoundland in Canada so they’ll most likely be heading for Gander AB tomorrow and not an East Coast US AFB.
What’s really frustrating for me now I know that they’re en route to Gander is that I wish they’d flown the “northern route” via the UK and Iceland! :sigh: Maybe they’ll return home that way via a couple of days at Fairford for RIAT 😀
Best regards
Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News
Nice! Anyone knows where the will land next? Thanks for sharing.
I understand that the plan is to leave Pratica del Mare this morning for Monte Real AB (in Portugal) and then onward to Lajes in the Azores.
I’m not 100% certain but I assume they will stop overnight at Lajes tonight and then head for one of the East coast US bases tomorrow: possibly Langley, VA or McGuire, NJ?
Best regards
Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News
Hi Steve,
I hope you don’t mind me digressing from the news above.
In the latest AFM, I saw that the UK Merlin fleet was grounded for quite a while the accident at Culdrose was being investigated. Those guys were so lucky to get out alive.
Are the RAF and RN Merlins flying again now?Cheers, Transall.
No problem whatsoever…digress away at your leisure, Transall 😀
There were some “essential flights” still allowed, as far as I’m aware, but these seem to have been limited to the MoD/AgWest test fleet as the only fliers noted seem to have been at Boscombe and Yeovil.
I think this was stuck to by the Services fairly rigorously because I know that the RAF Merlins detached to RAF Leeming and the FAA ones at West Palm Beach, Fla. didn’t move an inch after the crash at Culdrose.
From this press release hosted on Rotorhub it appears normal flying should resume next week.
Click here for the Rotorhub piece
Best regards
Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News
Flood,
the Big E is in next week (from 2nd July)
and I’m not talking class A imports from Holland 😀