I somehow missed the news of his death, so this thread comes as a bit of a shock. RIP Gary, thanks for some great music over the years.

Although he was probably best known as a blues player, I’ve always preferred his rock music, Wild Frontier probably being my favourite of his albums.

The most recently withdrawn Harriers were ‘second generation’, developed in the 1980’s and in service from the early 90’s. The ‘first generation’ Harriers went up to T.Mk.4, the GR.5 onward being second generation. The SeaHarrier was very much first generation, and so was closer to the earlier Harriers such as the GR.3. The SeaHarrier FRS.1 in the Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton is a GR.3 with a SeaHarrier cockpit grafted on.

Label it as an Oxbox Box, that ought to confuse a few people…

Well I’m not a parent myself as yet, but I have family in the education system (one teacher, one uni lecturer) and I’m an uncle a dozen times over…

The one factor that is most prominent in how children learn and behave and so on are the parents. My brother brought home some work to mark from his class of 9 year olds, and having seen this stuff you just wouldn’t believe the difference between the kids with decent parenting and those without. Even before parents evening, he knows almost exactly the kind of parent he is going to be meeting going by how the child behaves, thier attitude toward life and other people, and thier standard of handwriting, literacy and numeracy. Children are absorbant, and everything the adults around them do rubs off on them- fact.

Yes, there are problems with education too, but there is only so much teachers can do. A child who is being subjected to neglect, apathy or other negative influences at home is not going to reach thier full potential no matter how much tweaking of education goes on.

That said, I do agree with Joanna Lumley on the whole, a strong moral education is more important than a strong academic one. You can be as bright as you like, but with no moral compass you’re stuffed.

Inkworm, don’t give up old chap. I know peer pressure can be immense, but it’s the core values that people are taught as kids that really stick with them.

I’m now 30, and it’s just in the last couple of years that I have really begun to appreciate the quality of my upbringing. I have been very lucky in having parents who’ve stuck together through thick and thin, and who have set an excellent example to me all my life. I have friends who’ve been through the divorce and re-marriage of parents and other home problems, and having seen and heard about the things they’ve been through, I’m eternally grateful for the stability of my upbringing.

Sorry, bit of a rant!

As Jeepman points out, the canopy on the Emil in the BofB hall is rather G-like, I’ve heard that it may even be a Buchon canopy.

Welcome back Lincoln, I’m glad the trouble was spotted in good time. My dad had serious aortic trouble last year, he collapsed last July and had to have emergency surgery which thankfully saved his bacon! Knowing how serious it can be, I’m glad to hear you’ve come through it all seemingly so smoothly.

To your good health sir!

Lone Star Flight Museum have or had one under airworthy restoration back to bomber configuration, although I seem to recall it suffered damage in the hurricane a couple of years back.

The one Oxcart mentions is ‘Tanker 121’, which was airworthy for a short time late last summer. It flew to Casa Grande, Arizona, back in October and she was still resting there as of a month ago.

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