My aviation friend who is also a train enthusiast asked me to post this comment:
“The Dornier was spotted circling at Wrexham as the train went through with Black 5 44932 in charge. Added excitement to the afternoon!”
Thanks, my friend Mike will be delighted!
My friend who is Secretary of the 610 Sqn Association says he is glad to research and provide any information he holds on Flt Lt Davidson (including a photograph). The enquirer should provide an appropriate email address through the 610 Squadron website. The email address will remain hidden from public access.
I was another whose first thought was that it was an April Fool joke in extremely poor taste. Glad you’re ok!
It’s actually at Hawarden (No 7 OTU), about three miles from Sealand. That’s the Vickers factory in the background now used by Airbus.
How about the photos of USAAF aircraft testing the FIDO installation at Woodbridge. Available free on the Fold 3 website.
This is a brilliant thread combining a rapid and very satisfactory identification, descent into banter, rising again with more serious revelations, prompt action to preserve the relic, followed by more banter, some of it of high quality. Not forgetting the involvement of a cute little dog (no, not you Andy.)
That’s very good, Richard! I suppose thread drift will bring it ashore …
My joke sank without trace because I forgot that few on here are old enough to remember who Jane Russell was and what she looked like in her voluptuous heyday! And that Howard Hughes designed a special bra for her …
Thinks: are female Jack Russells called Jane Russells?
You make me feel old Dave! Yes, it was tragic that quite a few relics like this one weren’t saved. The main problems were lack of cash, suitable transport and somewhere to store them. The preservation movement had yet to get started …
A very interesting article, in fact the fullest account I’ve ever seen of this project and the most photos too. Coincidentally, The window where I’m typing this looks towards the former RAF Sealand and the very extensive Dee Marshes. I believe Sealand was chosen because the nearby marsh only floods with a very high tide and thus it would be fairly easy to recover the jettisoned wing for reuse. I have yet to confirm whether or not the wing was ever slipped on a test from Sealand. From the background terrain, one of the photos was almost certainly taken at Sealand.
I took that Lib nose photo in Aug 1960 and later compiled the chapter in the Epics book at the request of Bruce Robertson. I had some correspondence with Jim Oughton but we could never pin down the serial. It had a unique circular aperture in the lower right of the nose glazing and you can just see the edge of it by the tree trunk. This may have been for an early experimental Leigh Light installation but again, no confirmation. The B-17 nose section at Warrington was partly buried in scrap but bomb mission symbols were painted on it so it must have been a combat veteran. It was next to the Marauder fuselage section which fortunately has survived. Not so the B-17; it went to Duxford and after a few years was scrapped. Not a thoughtful decision by IWM. Caddy Dave’s recollection of Dunkeswell may be confusion with a USN PB4Y Lib which had suffered a landing accident near the end of the war and was still there in the late 1940s.
Dave Smith
Embarrassingly awful. They should sack the ‘special effects company’ and start again, preferably forcing the SFX geeks to watch the original Memphis Belle, Twelve O’Clock High and a few others before committing further keyboard heresy. But no, we seem to be stuck with them; they’re the sh*t that won’t flush …
Interesting that F/O Dean was known as ‘Dixie’, as were most Deans in those days. My Dad went to school in Birkenhead with the original Dixie Dean who ran a pub in Chester – the Dublin Packet – after he retired. He was the David Beckham of his era, but could you imagine Beckham having to resort to running a pub. Sorry to digress – I couldn’t resist it!