Dear oh dear, I’d forgotten what a terrible film Wing Commander really is until I watched it again!
All I know about the Lightning cockpits used in the filming is that they were supplied to the production company by Marine Salvage in Portsmouth. I understand Keith had an option to buy them back when filming was complete but I’m not sure that ever happened…and Keith is a bit cagey about it!
At least one was cut in half to enable interior shot to be filmed and a cockpit restorer in the Reading area I believe did indeed stick it back together.
Of the others, I’ve heard that some never returned from Luxembourg where filming took place and some are now in a kids playground in Japan.
Oh, and one of them appeared on eBay a couple of months back but didn’t sell as I recall.
..his all-red Hawker Hunter reached 728 mph over Tangmere, Kent.
How long has Tangmere been in Kent then? :rolleyes:
Not sure if this qualifies for the “museum” list but here goes anyway.
GR.3 at RNAS Predannack. Sorry, not sure of the serial and am not able to look it up at the moment.
There are a load more at Culdrose of course (School of Flight Deck Operations), but I never got a chance to photograph them.
A couple of Mirage F1s from Qatar (?) hot-dogging through the desert… watch for the shot taken out of the windscreen as they’re screaming down the desert road at umpty-hundred knots. Absolutely nuts. 🙂
BTW, some of the other links on the site are a bit, um, “racy”… not that many of you will mind, but be advised!
Mirage video
Lynn
Pretty certain they’re not Qatari. Look more like Kuwaiti markings to me but it’s difficult to tell given the resolution of the video.
Looks like damned good fun though 🙂
Almost…
Vampire T-22 had a Mk 4 seat, similar to Sea Venom.
See, I knew I’d get it wrong! :p
Thanks Bruce, I hadn’t realised that. Would that be the Mk.4A then?
Interior colour was indeed matt black, although you often see a white ‘blooming’ with age which can give it more of a charcoal appearance.
The ejection seats were the Mk.3B and were a satin black in colour. The parachute pack was khaki in colour (similar to Dark Earth) as were the parachute straps. The seat straps were usually a mid blue colour although sometimes very much darker blue portions were fitted. The PSP would be yellow canvas but sometimes with a dark brown or khaki cushion section – at least they were on the T.11, I’ve seen Naval Hunter seats fitted with a special Naval version of the standard PSP with a waterproof dark green coloured cushion section though so maybe the T.22 was the same? The only other colour on the seat is the face screen handle which is yellow/black stripes, the face screen itself being a cream coloured canvas. See here for some photos of a modern restoration.
I believe the wheel wells were painted with an aluminium paint so would be, er, aluminium in colour!
Most of all that is based on my exerience of Vampire T.11s mind, so I stand to be corrected.
I think he’s a member of this forum….
Yes, he is – ‘funhouse’ is the fella.
While funhouse is building a simulator cockpit, and doing a stunning job of it, there is a chap in Essex doing exactly as red964 suggests and building a full replica complete with Merlin. I’m not sure if he’ll be…
wobbling (his) way around in it like that spitfire spares chap is doing with that plastic spitfire of his
though! (love that turn of phrase 😀 )
Attached are pics of progress a year or so back.
How about these?
First two are scanned from official de Havilland photos, probably pre-delivery pictures. The FB.VI is NT193. The T.III picture is a little truncated because it’s too big to get on the scanner! The third photo is of a 21 Sqdn. crew at Gutersloh in 1945 with FB.VI SZ981. Interesting markings on the nose and spinners of that one. Anyone know more about it…colours etc.?
FLY.BUY & Dave T – e-mails sent.
Cheers…Mark
Oops, I see the profanity checker has been at work here!
**** in item 17 and 50 should read “c o c k” of course.
Hi Dave, unfortunately not, but originaly the scan were posted by MarkG (so he may have it?), while I was looking for some cockpit shots in a previous post.
Ah, thought I recognised them! Anyway, here’s the key…
1. Manual bomb release controls
2. Wing fold control
3. Rudder and aileron trim control switches and position indicator
4. Wing fold warning indicator
5. Booster pumps circuit breakers
6. Armament control panel
7. Press-to-transmit button
8. Air brakes control
9. RATOG jettison pushbutton
10. Hood jettison control
11. Arrestor hook control training switches and warning light
12. RATO firing pushbutton
13. Flaps position indicator
14. Undercarriage control lever
15. Elevator trim control and position indicator
16. Flaps control lever
17. H.P. **** control
18. Beacon homing panel
19. IFF controls
20. Undercarriage position indicator
21. Triple pressure gauge
22. Cabin altimeter
23. Tail wheel control switch
24. Radio altimeter, limit switch and warning lights
25. Fire extinguisher button and warning light
26. Cine camera switches
27. G.G.S. master switch
28. Pressure head heater switch
29. Invertor switches and indicator
30. External lighting controls
31. Fuel contents gauges (2)
32. Fuel pressure warning light
33. Oxygen regulator
34. Mk. 4F compass
35. Contacting altimeter
36. Engine starting safety and instrument supply switches
37. Battery isolating switch
38. Engine starter pushbutton
39. Generator field circuit breaker
40. Ignition isolator switch
41. RATO master switch
42. H.P. pump isolation switch and warning light
43. Beam approach and emergency lighting switches
44. Cabin ventilator
45. Guns/RP selector
46. Contacting altimeter switch
47. Hood winding handle
48. Selector dimmer control
49. Cabin pressure control
50. L.P. **** control
51. Fuel transfer control
52. Undercarriage emergency control
53. Emergency oxygen control
54. Fuel transfer pressure gauge
55. Windscreen de-icing controls
56. VHF controller
57. Internal lamps controls
FLY.BUY, if you’d like higher resolution scans of the panel pictures to help with restoration, then feel free to PM me and I’ll do some for you.
Cheers…Mark
Whirlwind?
http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/
Give them a go.
Moggy
Thanks for the suggestion but no luck I’m afraid. 🙁
Mark.
Where have you tried looking? There is a reluctance to go searching when it may be covering old ground. If we can eliminate what you have done, it will leave us free to concentrate on other areas.
Janie
Of course, good point.
So far I have tried the RAF Museum, who kindly sent me a copy of the movement card but had no photos, MAP photo agency and the Association of Transport Photographers and Historians (ATPH). The latter two I’ve previously had some excellent photos from, but they’ve got nothing for XE985.
Vosper MTB’s come a close second to aircraft with me!
Here, here to that!
Oh yeah, Tornado drop tanks?
Looks like 2 x 100 gallon and 1 x 230 gallon Hunter tanks to me.