any pictures of these cockpits?
One of them appeared on eBay a few months back but, for the life of me, I can’t find the picture which I’m sure I saved somewhere.
As I recall it didn’t sell and was still done up in it’s ridiculous film guise. It appeared from the photo to be in some sort of film memorabilia ‘museum’ or ‘display’ (as R2-D2 was standing next to it!) so I’d be curious to know where that was.
Will keep digging to see if I can find the photo…
Is this a record?
Resurrecting a thread that was last posted to 5 years ago! 😀
My annoyance is the inference in Alertken’s posting that those failings are down to that company and its predecessors…this is total pap and not based on one jot of evidence or commonsense and MarkG I am disappointed that you should believe that that company are ‘hopeless’.
Rocketeer, please don’t misunderstand my post – I was agreeing with you and was being sarcastic (hence the smilie) with the “hopeless” thing. I certainly do not believe QinetiQ/DERA/A&AEE are or ever were anything other than excellent so if you took it the wrong way then I apologise and have now deleted it.
Bits of XL391 on eBay already…http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-piece-of-Vulcan-Bomber-history_W0QQitemZ6029279900QQcategoryZ70106QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Crikey, that didn’t take long did it?
How many of the people who are posting in great indignation regarding this lump of scrap metal actually offered to do anything to help? Did any of you offer to help the original owner with its preservation? Did any of you lobby the owner when the aircraft started to deteriorate significantly? Did anyone offer to help with a repaint? Cleaning? Did anyone offer to buy it and move it to a new home to be preserved properly?
Actually yes, some did. Arrangements were even made for the cockpit to removed and transported and the remainder of the airframe (already too far gone by then) to be removed, but no-one could ever get past the greed of Bateson who would never entertain anything less than £10k for it, even in it’s obviously atrocious state. If it hadn’t been condemned by the local council he’d probably still be insisting on £10k for it now.
But he’s done alright out of it hasn’t he? Bought it for £5k, spent no more than thruppence ha’penny preserving it, gained at least £4k ‘out of court settlement’ from Mr Pub Landlord (assuming he didn’t keep any of the £15k eBay auction price) then another £5k selling to Mr Scrappie. 😡
Had a good look and couldnt see it even did a search with no results, what section is it under ?
Cheers
Search found it for me no problem…
From imdb.com
Plot Summary for
Sole Survivor (1970) (TV)A B-25 bomber is discovered in the middle of the (Libian) Lybian desert and an Air Force investigation team is called in to examine it. The team quickly discovers that it has not been touched since crashing a quarter century earlier. They also discover the plane’s navigator survived and is now an Air Force general. The problem? He said the plane went down in the (mediterrainian) Mediterranean Sea after the captain ordered the crew to bail out. This story has an interesting supernatural twist.
A bit more from Wikipedia…
“This story has an interesting supernatural twist; the crew of the bomber spend their days endlessly playing baseball in the desert waiting to be rescued. . .”
That certainly sounds like it.
Andy, thanks heavens for you!
I know of this film and remember seeing it a long while ago. I tried to describe it to someone recently (because I haven’t a clue what it’s called either I’m afraid) and they looked at me as if I was barking mad! In the end he’d almost convinced me that I was mad so I can’t wait to find out what it was called.
Why is the IWM or RAF Museum more interested in acquiring dubious aircraft types (mostly non-British) rather than trying to look for restorable sections or airframes such as Stirling, Whitley etc.
Cees, you’ve hit the nail on the head there. It’s a mystery to me too. :confused:
Not trying to insult anyone’s efforts here guys, but personally I don’t really see the point in keeping cockpits.
I think all the individual efforts and dollars/pounds put into saving a few cockpits would be much better spent saving one or two complete airframes, in my opinion. At least if whole airframes are saved there’s a chance in the future they could be returned to the air, where they belong.
Fine if it’s a starting from scratch replica like the B17 that started this thread or the Stirling replica in Holland. But “killing a plane to save it’s brain” is not good preservation in my book. I know you all differ on this so I’ll shut up now, and await your scorn…
As Stuart has already said, I would not have expected this sort of nonsense from someone who has made over 3,500 worthwhile contributions to this forum.
There are aircraft types, and certainly particular marks, that exist only in cockpit form nowadays. Would you prefer that the entire aircraft be allowed to be scrapped and therefore lost forever? Seems a peculiar attitude for someone with an interest in historic aviation. You seem to be under the impression that aircraft are scrapped for their cockpits. As others have already pointed out that is certainly not the case. Thank God someone is able to save something from these aircraft – I’m sure many cockpit restorers would love to have saved the entire aircraft but that’s generally not an option.
I think all the individual efforts and dollars/pounds put into saving a few cockpits would be much better spent saving one or two complete airframes, in my opinion. At least if whole airframes are saved there’s a chance in the future they could be returned to the air, where they belong.
So how exactly is that going to work then Dave? How would that be organised? How would you persuade an individual to spend their own money in that way? Frankly, if I choose to spend my own hard-earned cash on saving and restoring a cockpit section that would otherwise be smashed to pieces, then it’s nobody elses business other than my own.
The astronauts felt that the NA people were far too arrogant and unwilling to take on board the astronauts’ suggestions
Which is a terrible shame given what happened to Apollo 1.
The F.8 was the only Meteor variant to be fitted with a bang seat I believe.
What was the first type of aircraft in RAF service to have an ejection seat fitted?
Meteor F.8 ?
Ejection seat….yeah right!
Wishful thinking I reckon. 😀
These are links to some piccies of the Canberra – hopefully Les can identify the mark at least. It looks like a B.2 to me, but then I’m not sure I’d be able to tell for sure from these dodgy pictures if it was a PR.7 for example.
Anyway, have a butchers and do your thing Les!
http://www.wcnews.com/shots/movie/full/pic25.jpg
http://www.wcnews.com/shots/movie/full/wcexpo8.jpg
http://www.wcnews.com/shots/movie/full/wcexpo7.jpg
Mark