From the SAAB press release:
Upon an invitation from armasuisse, Saab submitted a proposal for Gripen E on 25 January 2019. Since the submission of the proposal in January, the armasuisse’ expectations on the flight tests have evolved to expect participation of operationally ready aircraft. As Gripen E is yet to become operational, Saab has presented solutions to perform the Swiss flight tests in 2019. An offer to complement the Gripen E test aircraft with an operational Gripen C aircraft for the flight tests in June 2019 has not been accepted by armasuisse. Competitors have showcased capabilities on existing platforms, which are different to the versions offered for delivery.
SAAB do have 2 points to make there if what SAAB say is correct:
1 the goalposts have been moved – aircraft to be evaluated did not need to be operational when the contest started but now they do
2 competitors are bringing aircraft for evaluation with capabilities that differ from those to be supplied
I am not sure of the wisdom of the Armasuisse approach. I see a risk of a referendum blocking procurement again on unacceptable cost grounds where perhaps a lower Gripen E cost might have been acceptable.
I note that SAAB has not withdrawn its offer and that SAAB’s Gripen E offer still stands
Sorry. Yes. you are right. Not SAAB’s decision but Armasuisse. Doesn’t this mean Gripen E is out of contention unless it turns out to be the best option financially and the politicians go for that angle? That was what happened last time, I think.
Gripen E to give Swiss flight tests a miss
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/gripen-e-to-give-swiss-flight-tests-a-miss-458883/
That reduces the number of contenders by 1, doesn’t it? Sounds a bit like a student saying he does not want to take an exam but wants to get better marks than the candidates who actually take the exam.
Third Gripen E takes to the air
SAAB expects to have 4 production aircraft flying by the end of 2019.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-saab-flies-third-gripen-e-test-aircraft-458808/
Saab to test electronic attack jammer pod on Gripen
Scheduled for testing on a Gripen so I presume it will be available on Gripen E in the future.
The contract between Sweden and Hungary expires in 2026. It was extended in 2017, and includes an upgrade to the MS20 standard.
What happens after 2026 is of course totally open.
That would be the time to switch to F-35, wouldn’t it, if Hungary wanted to.
Malaysia interested in buying used Kuwaiti fighters
If voters should block new fighters, the Hornets will either have to soldier on or the AF will have to exit the fighter business.
If new fighters are blocked again, how much longer could the Hornets remain in service before becoming prohibitively expensive to operate? Would there be time for one last attempt to sanction a fighter purchase 2-3 years down the line?
Switzerland is very unusual in not having a 24 hours a day, 365 days a year fighter force available. If the Swiss public have been content with part time fighter cover, they would perhaps accept no fighter force at all. At which point considering UCAV’s seems an option for providing indigenous air cover.
I have forgotten – does Switzerland have an arrangement with Italy to provide interception fighters when the Swiss air force is not available?
Hungary May Scrap Swedish Jet Deal for US F-35 Over War of Words – Report
Hungary is considering scrapping its lease agreement for Jas 39 Gripen and replacing the 14 Swedish fighter jets with US-made F-35, which may cost Sweden billions of kronor and thousands of job opportunities, the Swedish news outlet Fria Tider reported.
The bilateral lease agreement is now at stake over Sweden’s “constant smear campaign” against the Hungarian government. Specifically, Hungary is considering replacing the lease agreement with a $1 billion deal with US firm Lockheed Martin. The choice is between the latest model of the F-16 or the fifth generation F-35.
SAAB offers Canada local production of Gripen E if ordered
UTAP-22 is not on the list for evaluation so to me it is not relevant.
EF on the other hand is out imho, for political reasons. I’ve said it before, shouldn’t have let ze Germans run the business.
Unaware of the political angle. Would you be able to inform me better, please?
This is why i suggested to back any offer with a performance contract, something that will guarantee that the plane will be available operationally X time a year at a given price.
Sure, if only Eurofighter can do that at a competitive rate.
Ellen Lord, the US Department of Defense’s undersecretary of defence for acquisition and sustainment, spoke with reporters on 10 May about a host of topics including the ongoing quarrel with Turkey stemming from its plan to field the Russian-built S-400 system over the US-built Patriot system.
“We have been very clear that the F-35 and the S-400 are incompatible,” Lord told reporters.
https://www.janes.com/article/88442/…ponent-vendors
Where is the incompatibility?
If they can get some new Typhoon at an even lower price (F-16-70), there is no doubt that they should go for that option… And add a performance contract.
I hear that Typhoon is very expensive to operate (via this site and others). I think that Austria has decided they are too costly and would like to buy an alternative. From the FT
The country’s 15 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft would be taken out of service from 2020, the defence ministry in Vienna said on Friday. It blamed spiralling costs…
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Come to think of it Austria flew Drakens before Typhoons so Austria will know whether SAAB was a good supplier and if so may be in the market for Gripens.