Bulgaria reveals why it might stop talks to buy F-16 fighter jets
If they fall out with LM over the cost, Gripen E seems the obvious alternative.
Article revealing Swiss government’s possible strategy aimed at avoiding a second plebiscite rejection of the fighter procurement programme:
Finally a MOU is NOT a contract. Nothing more but a letter of intention.
True, not a contract but this one looks very much like an attempt to clarify the terms on which any ensuing contract would be made. If that is what Canada signed up to, that is what Canada signed up to. I still don’t understand how Canada signed the MOU if a subsequent contract including the offsets prohibition clauses would be in breach of Canadian law
PS at least that shows that there cannot be any offsets from F-35 contracts and that when LM promises them (cf Belgium) it is just hot air.
But Belgium is not a partner so the MOU conditions on offsets do not apply.
The Participants recognize that in conducting full and open competitions for the Project, full consideration will be given to all qualified sources from the other Participant’s country, to the extent consistent with the national laws, regulations, and policies of the Contracting Participant
“Full and open competitions”, means no promise of Industrial offsets. Trudeau Gov. structured the fighter competition in a way that violates the MOU that Canada signed. Period.
Looks like F-35 is a non-starter given that in the MOU it says full consideration will be given to the laws of the participants. If Canada has a law demanding offsets, Canada cannot in Canadian law accept a proposal that disbars offsets.
If such a law existed in Canada at the time the MOU was agreed – and the participants were aware of this -I don’t understand why either Canada or the US participant signed the MOU.
Che”ck, A2G missions are needed.
Why? In what scenario would the Swiss air force undertake strike missions?
The N-LCA is dead other that for the use of research. Which, is why the Indian Navy has a tender for “57” foreign Naval Fighters today.
Navy already decided it is underpowered and unsuitable.
Navy cannot possibly wait for any naval MWF. If it is ever built earliest availabilty will be late 2020’s. Vikrant should be ready to go early 2020’s. Not much point in driving it around for years without any aircraft, is there?
An English tabloid newspaper reports India is interested in building a carrier based on the design of the new UK carriers. Any chance of this going anywhere?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/india-building-copycat-version-britains-14997455
The US is not forcing anything on Canada. All we ask is that Canada sticks to the agreement that they not only willingly signed, but are currently benefiting from to the tune of $Billions.
I think the amount of funding provided by Canada for F-35 almost certainly exceeds profits from F-35 work. Do you recall that JSF was going to cost about the same as F-16, partly because work was going to be allocated to the most competitive partner bid? If so all partners including the US benefit.
If Canada did agree to no offsets if it bought F-35, fair enough. Puts the other contenders in a stronger position, though, doesn’t it?
VICTORIA, British Columbia — The U.S. is threatening to pull the F-35 from Canada’s fighter jet competition if the ally to the north doesn’t change requirements for the winning bidder to stipulate specific industrial benefits for domestic firms.
The U.S. government is arguing that since Canada is a partner in the F-35 program it cannot request guaranteed industrial benefits for its companies.
I think Canada has spent hundereds of millions of dollars to be in this basically US programme. The US government and industry seem to think they can stop Canada making aircraft that do not even compete with Boeing products (which they did, more or less bankrupting the Bombardier CS programme) and also to take funds for F-35 program investment then to dictate the terms of Canada’s F-18 replacement program.
Can’t trust LM anyway. Remember a few years back they were secretly trying to influence decision makers in contravention of the rules laid down by the Canadian government?
I suggest that Canada is best placed to decide the term of its own selection competition. It is not actually a US colony to the best of my recollection, even if USA government thinks it is. Good riddance if LM drops out.
They have roughly 30% of every T-X to manufacture. I don’t think that they will be short of work for their current manpower anytime soon. Better fill a contract than raising production cost by playing the yo-yo with their workforce.
Freezing production activity has been the motto of Dassault under the Trappier era and it has proved to be an overall disaster.
Curious about your comment about Dassault and imagine you refer to the 11 per year Rafale production rate. I thought this was the minimum level to break even on production. With SAAB contracted to assemble around 80 E’s and a good chance of landing an order for 30+ from Switzerland what sort of annual assembly rate in Sweden would you find beneficial financially?
Sweden could be poised to approve an extension to operations with part of its Saab Gripen C/D fleet until beyond 2030, in a step that would bolster the size of its fighter inventory beyond the 60 E-model examples currently on order for its air force.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar…by-a-d-457836/
Should make the SwAF happy. The article states that there are 100 Gripen C/D in SwAF. They are 4-16 years old. To me it would have been an expensive waste to retire the younger ones with a lot of life left in them once the 60 Gripen E on order had been delivered.. I suppose the downside is that the Swedish government will not be ordering any more Gripen E in the foreseeable future.
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Polish defense minister: F-35 acquisition ‘not far away’
Says a lot about perceived “F-21” chances in India…
Well, there is still some demand for F-16 from countries that do not want to be supplied à la Indian (never know when it will be supplied). Had India announced it had decided to order a “Made in India F-21” how many years would it have been before aircraft actually rolled off the line – 3 years? 5 years? 10 years? Never because India changed her mind? If a country were serious about re-equiping its air force with an Indian produced F-16 within a planned time schedule, it would be taking a very big risk ordering F-21.
I see Dassault getting another Rafale order when India finds herself acutely short of fighters due to Tejas being many years late, MMRCA failing to produce any results after running for nearly 10 years, iMade in India producing no result etc etc
At the same time I hope that the interminably delayed Tejas programme keeps to current schedule and a squadron or more starts being produced each year.
It is indeed a risk with Germany.
I guess it means that a contract for further supplies of Eurofighter to Saudi Arabia cannot be negotiated (if SA actually wanted to buy more). What would br the point of the supplier making a contract it could not honour?