I grew up in the flight pattern of NAS Moffet Field and my childhood is filled with memories of P-3s over head. It always makes me happy to seee new life for the out growth of the Electra, the first turbine aircraft I ever flew on.
Scott
In the movie, they used minatures and then only in silhouette. To my untrained eye they looked like Lanc’s but they probably were meant to be Halifaxes.
Thanks for the info.
Scott
That being said, you were on a Hawaiian DC-10, not an L1011. The Tristars were long gone by 2000.
No you do not! The brother and I got this same treatment last year on United flying LHR-IAD.
Just the same, I would NEVER confuse a L-1011 with a {Yuck} DC-10. I know I flew at least one leg to HNL on a Tristar.
Better a sister in a whorehouse than a brother on a DC-10.
Scott
Are you sure about this? Aloha never operated the Tristar, or any other widebody, for that matter. Hawaiian operated the Tristar, but was phased out by ’94 when they took AA’s DC-10’s. Are you sure it wasn’t ATA or something? They operated the Tristar from LAX-HNL up until recently.
Boy do I get things wrong! Yes LAX-HNL and yes Hawaiian. But I am pretty sure it was as recently as ’00. Certainly not as long ago as ’94. The entire family got upgraded to 1st Class on the LAX-HNL leg because they had overbooked our orignial flight. You do not forget things like that.
Scott
My last flight in a TriStar was about 4-5 years ago LAX-HON on Aloha Airlines. One of the passengers engaged the pilot in conversation, and the pilot said that the old plane was still a favorite for the crews to fly.
I grew up in the shadow of various Lockheed factories and the L-1011 was the last bright and shining hope for their commercial division. I always hated the DC-10 for stealing the TriStar’s thunder by hitting the market slightly sooner.
Scott
As a photographer, I was struck by the propellers in these pictures. In old photos, the props are usually blurred beyond recognition. For these photos, the shutter speed would have to be pretty fast to catch the props with very little blurring (at least 125th of a second). Consequently, the film speed would have had to be pretty “fast” (light sensitive) to allow such a fast shutter speed. All of this leads me to think that the pictures may not be all that old, as film stock in the old days was not so light sensitive.
Of course I could be completely wrong on all of this, the pictures could be very old and the fast shutter was enabled by a sunny day. Just something I noticed.
Scott
Lastest word is that the jack screws that enable the gear broke on both sides! Could it be that the fatigue life of the metal was reached at the same time on both sides? Probably the weight of one collapsing killed the second.
Scott
Unfortunately KCBS-TV did not include all of the footage of the landing. As I remember, the landing did not look particularly hard. And the tail wheel did not begin to shimmy until the aircraft had settled on the runway and had been in rollout for some distance.
As you may have gathered from my sign-in name I work for CBS as a TD (technical director) but I also spend a large part of my earlier career as a photographer in news helicopters. I was very happy to see the occupants of the WNBC helicopter get out relatively unharmed.
Scott
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Back to the topic:
Yes, I am an American and No, I never thought the invasion was a good idea. No, slaughtering innocents is not a good idea and Yes, we (the US and her allies) have got ourselves buggered pretty good in iraq.
My original point is: Half measures are not working and are causing US military personel to be subject to unneccesary dangers.
In America we have a saying: “**** or get off the pot.” Which means do job right or do not bother at all. I say we must either commit to using overwhelming force to pacify opposition, or bug out.
If it were up to me, we (the US and her allies) would never have invaded Iraq. I never bought the “WMD” or the “Al Queda Connection” arguements. I would hand over Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell as war criminals.
I just hate to see brave US and allied servicemen and women exposed to more danger than neccesary because policy makers do not want to look “bad” in world opinion.
Scott
Back to the topic:
Yes, I am an American and No, I never thought the invasion was a good idea. No, slaughtering innocents is not a good idea and Yes, we (the US and her allies) have got ourselves buggered pretty good in iraq.
My original point is: Half measures are not working and are causing US military personel to be subject to unneccesary dangers.
In America we have a saying: “**** or get off the pot.” Which means do job right or do not bother at all. I say we must either commit to using overwhelming force to pacify opposition, or bug out.
If it were up to me, we (the US and her allies) would never have invaded Iraq. I never bought the “WMD” or the “Al Queda Connection” arguements. I would hand over Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell as war criminals.
I just hate to see brave US and allied servicemen and women exposed to more danger than neccesary because policy makers do not want to look “bad” in world opinion.
Scott
#4- A-4 of the US Navy over Haiphong.
Scott
As a kid in the late 1960’s I had a chance to see the Blue Angels flying the F-4 at Moffet Field NAS, located just south of San Francisco. The date was probably 1967-68.
The details escape me now, but we did not see the display from the visitor’s area. Instead we parked across the 101 Freeway just under the approach to the main runway. My memory is that the F-4’s came in low (less than 200 feet) and about 500 feet laterally from where we were standing. I clearly rememebr seeing the pilots under the canopys.
Loud, loud, loud. A beautiful sound.
I also remember losing visual on the AC when they made their passes and turned to return as the speed and weight of the craft carried then so far down range after each pass.
Years later I saw a very interesting display at Pt. Magu NAS. at their annual airshow. First, a pair of WWI era replicas simulated a dog fight. They looked like a pair of kites. Second, a pair of T-6’s from WWII simulated a dogfight. Third, a F-86 and a Mig-17 did a display together. Fourth, a F-4 made some passes over the field. And then a F-14 and a Harrier did their thing for the crowd. The conclusion was a P-51 and a F-15 flying in formation. In one afternoon you got a lving history of air warfare.
Scott
Is that a Phoenix AAM in that picture?
I split my time between a ’03 Honda Accord LX and a ’87 Honda CRX Si.
We are limited here in the US, we do not get the variety of Euro- vehicles available in the rest of the world. Of the stuff we do have access to, Honda is the best for the price.
Honda- An engine company that also happens to make cars.
Scott