Originally posted by srpatterson
PM me your address and I’ll send you a subscription. One of the perks of being a millionaire:)Just ask Kittyh@#$
cant help yourself can you?:cool:
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theres still complete wrecks around
http://www.geocities.com/hjunkers/ on there somewhere i think
im sure i read somewhere that a museum took the outer wings ect last year, theres a website with a few of these i’ll try to find it
its junk, if he makes so much from his aviation website why does he need to sell the cd?;)
you shouldnt take anything from a fatal accident
Originally posted by TTP
Kittyhawk,I think its awesome your trying to build a P-40 from scratch, will it be a flyable aircraft, or static?
TTP
airworthy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3805436288&category=61673 here ya go, $99 USD;)
Originally posted by TTP
Kityhawk,Two questions,
One, what type of plane are you building?
Two, I too admire these warbirds, and I’m also an Air Force Pilot, who frequents Air shows often, so I’ve met many of these owners. For the most part they are avid enthusiasts , a small few who can be spoiled….but look at it this way, instead of taking their millions and blowing coke up their nose, they buy Mustangs and Corsairs and fly to airshows!! I think its great, and hope one day to be just like them…..I do get annoyed at times when one of these guys wrecks these treasures due to limited training/experience.
You seem to have your heart in the right place, but have alot of class envy, I’d guess your a Democrat!! Either way, pretend you win the lottery and won 10 million dollars, wouldn’t you go and buy a warbird too? The rich are just like us, except they either got very lucky or earned it the old fashioned way, I don’t ever look down on them……….
TTP
One) A P-40E right now i need everything i can get, i have a new front cowl, new instrument panel, instruments, canopy crank, possible complete airworthy canopy, have tracked down gear legs & someone to build major assemblies, im getting new wheel castings & other small pieces.
Two) if i won the lottery i would build a replica a lot faster, i dont like rich people because most rich only become that way by taking from others and look down on everyone.
im the kind of person that would punch a rich guy in the face just for being rich, i know that sounds stupid but thats just me.
and again im not saying all of them.
the royal navy & rnzaf dumped (and burried inland) 600 hellcats, corsairs & a few sea fires (possibly avengers too) off sydney heads & the gold coast in 1945.
they dug one up from the ground in the 70’s (a hellcat) completely corrodid, they also pulled some out of the water in the 90’s and they were weetbix.
i dont know how it is in england but anything you pull out of the water here just disintegrates.
they just fall to bits.
heres a corsair;)
Re: Thanks for the photo
Originally posted by peter
When was this taken kittyhawk?
Do you have any more of the opposite side of the field where the old dispersal pans are?I thought that lightning was sold and in the process of being dismantled for shipment up north?
just found it on a site…try looking in http://images.google.com
Originally posted by DazDaMan
I, for one, don’t own a warbird, and am very unlikely to (unless I win the Lottery rollover), but I don’t agree with that comment.I joined Carolyn Grace’s Grace Spitfire Supporters Group so that the aircraft can stay airborne, on public display. She doesn’t beg for money – the membership fee goes straight into the upkeep of ML407, and anything that a member donates after that is up to them.
She’s not rich, either. It’s a struggle for her to keep the Spitfire flying as it is, and without the Group, ML407 would be just another museum piece!!
Dude, if you can’t afford it, build a bloody replica! It’s cheaper (hell you can build a FULL-SIZE Spitfire replica for about $250,000 – with an Allison engine in it!) and the end result is just as satisfying. OK, so it doesn’t have the wartime provenance, but does that really matter?
I tell you what I’d rather have….
iam building a replica, anyway this has gotten out of hand, sorry to the few i offended with my views, not sorry to the flamers:cool:
Originally posted by mexicanbob
Mr. Kittyhawk,I might know why you may have been treated shabby by a warbird owner or two over the years. Could it be your nasty disposition? I’ve seen your type at airshows. Fortunately, these people have been few and far between.
I grew up in West Texas, where warbirds have always been plentiful. Because most of the owners were nice folks and had an interest in the future of aviation, they took me flying in their planes. They let me be involved with their crews at airshows and made me feel like I was important. This all started when I was about eleven. Twenty years later, I’m still friends with them, have met many more just like them and partially because of them I have had a life long love with aviation and history. As well as a twenty year involvement with warbirds.
Up until I moved to South Carolina six months ago, I was living in Washington State. I had the keys to the hangers and near total freedom with a collection of warbirds worth several million dollars. On top of that, I had access to several other warbirds in the Pacific Northwest. I helped with maintenance and got to fly in return. I did alot more flying than I deserved! Do you know why? Because the people are nice!
I’m an enlisted man in the Air Force, so I don’t make a bunch of money. However, I’ve been able to live out a dream and be involved with warbirds strictly through the generousity and kindness of the people that have been blessed enough to have the financial means to play this game. Over the years, I learned enough about working on them to make myself useful. Even if it was only in my own mind, I became important in my own little corner of the warbird world.
By the way, not all of the owners are really that wealthy! I know some that just barely scrape by and put every disposable dollar into their planes.
Don’t be mad at people like Steve because they have made a succesful life and are able to enjoy it they way they do. A bunch of them are quite willing to share the spoils with those of us that haven’t quite made it there yet.
Just in case you didn’t realize it, the warbirds that we all love: P-40, Corsair, Spitfire, T-6 etc… have been out of the price range of most of us “regular guys” for many years. If your interested, I know where you can find a bunch of migs that are still very cheap.
Do what I did, buy a plane that has to be rebuilt. It may be more expensive in the long run, but sometimes it’s more viable if the cost can be spread out over a few years. I knew a long time ago that I’d never be able to get me a P-47, but I’m quite happy with my Rawdon T-1 project.
Take a look at these links and you can see some of the good fortune I’ve had because of some of the warbird owners that you hate so much.
Brad
http://community.webshots.com/user/bradleypilgrim
http://community.webshots.com/user/bradleypilgrim1
http://community.webshots.com/user/bradleypilgrim2
im not saying they are all bad, but most of the ones i have met ARE.
i stated my opnion on this board and got flamed, even though i still dont think im being nasty, just stating my experience and ofcourse im going to retort to these people.
not all are bad, but most of the people ive had dealings with are, thats all.
heres a photo:)