How about Capt. Eric Brown flying the Ju88G-6 werk nr.621642 from Gormanston, Ireland, after the crew flew it from Denmark 3 days before VE Day? He mentioned that while on route to Farnborough he was met and escorted by three Spitfire off Valley.
Tony K
Spitfire 161 Trainer. This might help and do not forget to remove the cannons from the profile
I would be interested to know your source for the “deliberate” attack, as all the indications point to a nav error. Which weren’t uncommon.
The Air Corps investigated this incident as well as the Army and Air Defence Command and reported to G2. In the Air Corps report it stated that the Two Heinkels crossed the Wexford coast at about 9,000 ft. between Carnsore and Greenore and were identified by the Coastwatchers. They flew in close formation, the weather was fine with light cloud. The aircraft which attacked the viaduct used impact bombs while the Heinkel involved in the factory attack used delayed action (one of the bombs failed to explode). An Air Corps Gladiator scrambled from Baldonnel arrived overhead the Wexford Coast about 45 mins after the attack reported visibility excellent and at 4,000ft the Welsh Coast was clearly in sight. The conclusion of the G2 report was that it was deliberate with, the Saltee island, Coningsbeg Light ship, Tuskar Rock all clearly visible and all used as navigation point by the Luftwaffe
Thanks DGH again, Robert and Rod.
Rod special thanks for such a comprehensive reply. I will take some time to chew over this. It is great to know that there are such experts out there to keep us informed. I am very grateful for your time.
Tony K
Thanks Janie for the PM.
Thanks also to Dave. Yes IAC 199 is the one that is causing the query. It is always quoted as WG320 c/n0392, G APTF then IAC 199. I checked the fuselage (a shell only ) at Baldonnel today and find that it bears the stamp DHH/F/13 which belongs to c/n CI /0013 and which was WB561. This chipmunk is listed in the Air Britain serials as “control column jammed side slipped into ground South Cerney 23 August 1955” I wonder how much of WG320 was used in the rebuilding of 199. I would have thought therefore that the c/n for IAC 199 would have been 0013 or what is the criteria for rebuilding an aircraft?
Tony K
Ireland suffered a number of incidents of bombs being dropped by German aircraft who were lost, including the bombing of a plant in a village called Campile here in County Wexford on the South East coast in which two women were killed. Eyewitnesses reported that the plane strafed the village’s one and only street on its way to drop its ordnance.
Another time a Luftwaffe bomber strafed another village as it flew over although no bombs were dropped on that occasion.
PaulR
The German aircraft which bombed the Co op at Campile on August 26 1940 was not lost, it was a quite deliberate attack. It was one of two which crossed the Wexford coast, one broke away and dropped bombs (which missed) at a Viaduct carrying the rail line to Rosslare. The Heinkel which bombed Campile circled the factory at “a leisurely pace” and then joined up with the other Heinkel and set course for France. The reference to stafing in the village is news to me. I am still trying to identify the unit involved.
Tony K
James,
You are welcome, but I thought that the next question would have been “what is your source”. The answer would be “I have read the file”.
Regarding the Celtic Boss, the original idea was to include all three of the national colours, but with war approaching it was decided to reduce the visibility by dropping the white segment. Later a white square background was included with the fuselage boss at the request of the army units to avoid confusion with RAF aircraft operating over and around Ireland at that time. This lasted up to and including the purchase of the Seafires in 1947. New aircraft purchases reverted to the two colour boss and lasted until mid 1956 as listed in the previous posting.HTH.
Tony K.
The 3 colour boss came into use following a directive in mid 1956. The first to use it was the Chipmunk aircraft followed by 3 Vampire T55 delivered in the new scheme in July 1956 and the other aircraft followed as they went for normal serviceing or majors at the MU.
Tony K
Thanks for posting YR
Tony K
Thanks YR!
Tony K
Thanks Anne for that and for your help to us struggling types out there.
Would this be metal or wood. see attached (I hope)
Tony K
Please can I put a question about a blade here? It has the following; RA10046 RS also RS51125. There ia another number 046875. I suspect Seafire but is it wood or metal ?
Many thanks
Tony K
There is no Aer Lingus museum anymore. The Air Corps took back their exhibits and these are now at the Irish Air Corps Museum at Baldonnel. It is possible to visit but only by prior arrangements.
Tony K
Roobarb,
PV202/161 is maintained as is obvious to the highest standards. When delivered to the Irish Air Corps in 1951 it was specified gloss finish, that is what I was referring to and also the walkways were wider. No doubt our over supply of rain played havoc with the paint scheme and assisted by the salt air when operating from Gormanston airfield on our east coast.
Regards
Tony K
DazDeMan,
Perhaps that is what Ollieholmes unwittingly was referring to (as in the back of his mind). Then he is correct. MJ772 converted to Type 502 for the Irish Air Corps had two cockpits. Then the rear cockpit was faired over which made it a unique? single seat Spitfire with a cockpit thirteen and a half inches forward of the standard location.
Tony K