the biggest problem may be that it may well come back to lloyds !!

it would seem to be regular events for this company ( read comments of crew ) whilst it may be true or may not be true about the captain , one has to wonder how much is cost cutting management powered by greed over safety

who knows he may have been out of his depth because the company did not want to pay the going rate for the correct qualifications

it seems all too regular what with the previous concordia accident and this ship also to be merely one captain it would seem to be from higher up also

for me the company has been all too quiet for my liking

as the saying goes , while they’re picking on him they’re leaving me alone !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tan5VCkpK80&feature=related

i have a great idea instead of super cars why don’t hey do it in old bangers …errr hang on . no done !! , mopeds ,,errr no , vans , err no , trucks , err no , boats , err no , public transport , err no planes ,,err no !!

and there lies the problem top gear as is has run its course on ideas and gags to new arrivals it would probably be hilarious

but to die hard fans it is starting to get boring and predictable although thank god it still isn’t as tedious as fith gear

how much would it be for viki to join top gear ?? that will probably work , the only thing worth watching fith gear for on top gear

mind you she’s starting to get past the mucky milf stage perhaps sabine would be better

i’m not a fan i’m a blue !! but man utd seems to have done ok after beckham left !!

one man is not a team !!

i have to be thier biggest fan , but at the same time am getting tired of the same old , running into each other and hidden rude words till a banner is torn or a door is opened

i personaly feel a new script writer is required for the commedy ellement and some fresh format ideas

the three work superbly together , and filming is usualy superb india was a superb place full of so many superb options

it was the place i’d waited for ( as well as australia ) i felt let down as i felt they could have done so much more with it !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbledown

but your case was , are the government trying to hide the awful injury toll ??

of course they are !! that is true of any war !!and to some degree of the human psyche ( they never reported how many were injured on d.day ) ,

even as a kid i played soldiers at school and if anything happened you were either alive and it missed or you were dead !!

there was no played middle of the road injured ground

so probably it is that human trait that is reported as the human psyche doesn’t like the unsavoury disabled for life route as it reflects badly on the black and white view

there was a good film made about how the establishment and public treats or at least treated injured servicemen
it was called “tumbledown !” if it is available anywhere watch it the army didn’t even want him at his own regiments service (at i think westminster abbey ) things have changed since then but not mutch !!

Tornado 64

I am sure that all you say is in your two posts is probably true. But, with all respect, it rather misses the point of my post.

not realy !! if we had learned from history and left well alone or learn now more unnecesary suffering would be avoided

but we are not learning and blundering on with something with no benneficial end

both costing a fortune in the countrys wealth and costing a fortune in young lads/couples/familys lives

wich will have the same outcome for us as the USSR a large scrap pile in afghanistan and a long list of fruitlessly lost young lives and an even longer list of physical and mentaly disabled young people