The key will be:
. – Transit time (countries who fly on average farther thanks to the size of their daily theatre). Asia is something I would be betting on if I had some stake.
. – Short field capabilities. This is a must for Central and South America. So far we have not seen anything bold here. I would push early trials asap (especially when the 4C hasn’t fulfilled yet its customer’s expectations).
No. They’ve been retired 4 years before the Rafale lost the competition.
Ok. Thanks. Didn’t pay all the attention that this deserved.
@hallow: Yes, I knew. Trainers.
The Independent: UAE Mirage 2000-9D was shot down by SA-7 on 14 March.
Yemen conflict: Al-Qaeda ‘used surface-to-air missile’ to bring down Emirati fighter jet
Sa7?! If confirmed, this would be the second 2k downed by that missile after a FrAF 2kN downed by pro-Serbian rebels in 1995 (Op Deliberate force).
The bolts on the outside face of the panel?
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I agree with ~Alan~
A fake?
Airbus is all about securing Jobs… A national fighter aircraft manufacturer is all about technologies and deterrence. There are way more profitable markets. You don’t sell abroad Peugeot to keep Dassault afloat in order to maintain jobs… This is the wrong strategy.
But even this logic is full of flaws. If I sell 450 fuselage sections, I maintain more jobs than 120 complete airframe with a lower technological edge.
The US have large subcontractors in every domain of the field working globally and most importantly here, locally on several different projects. France has not. That’s why you’ve got this drama with small contractor having way too much weight on the output (prod rate).
Dassault is not liable for the network of subcontractors in France. This is the role of the DGA. Taking this by the extreme (there are always some middle grounds), it was not in the interest of MD to build an ITAR free (which is not) aircraft. They should have paid way more attention to source their components abroad as an option. GE414, F16 adapted electronics (see the farce in it?), less restricted munitions etc… A delta fighter with a classic structure build by the producer of the CATIA software like the Raf had all that was required to offer that much flexibility.
Now, it’s too late. There is nothing in the airframe that can’t be replicate by Saab, the Turkish, Korean or Indian industry (at best for MD) in the next decade.
the point 3 might be the more relevant in certain case. COIN has a muddy history and the US are trying to backup as much as possible to this (think Central America). Operating systems on the contrary, rarely made to the headlines of the news.
But then, there is also the fact that, with Brasil, promoting there indigenous design, like the Tucano, has been a constant in the time. France did buy some and operated them until discarding them after the Rafale lost the fighter acquisition competition.
For the AT-6, it might be a question of operating cost for the customers and that their maintenances and support will have required too much US nationals being exposed in zone where nobody wants them to be?
I also don’t think the AHRLAC will face any restrictions from the US unless some systematic improper use is done.
But on the upper end, you forgot to mention the Scorpion. Although not in service, it is clearly intended to be operated in this category of aircraft
It would be a huge missile (think something like a Scalp/Apache but slightly narrower) thanks to aerodynamic constraints (Body-lift Vs Weight, Drag and available trust).
Tupolev would be happy:
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Think also reliability.
Regarding Spitfire9’s last post:
say so the entrenched castel owner about the surrounding world… Centuries ago it was all about a flat earth.
B/w Cooperation and shared dev is not about Master and slaves. There are mutual enrichment to expect. In other words, benefits from synergies. And this includes RoI.
+1
Regarding GermanWings, the line was draw by the prosecutors and media without any deviation from the inception of this theory. I won’t see it as scientifically valid process.
Thank you Jonesy. I had the same feeling but without the background picture to assert a judgment.
Toan,
Without being irrespective to our fellow Swedish reader, the Grip NG didn’t show anything. It just filled the noisy vacuum left by the Mirage ending saga. The brio of the Swedes was to identify this and fill the crack with blush and strass (I will remind you that the Vacuum is still a reality if we look at what’s on the tarmac).
Artists are creative. Arms manufacturers are largely destructive, intent on devising means to destroy what humanity has built or created. Arms manufacturers might be creative in seeking to come up with ways and tools to destroy things but never let them liken themselves to the creative geniuses of the last 1000 years. I find the choice of ‘Leonardo’ as a brand name pretentious, very inappropriate and in extremely bad taste. But then who ever said marketing people suffered from taste?
it could have been worst 😉
Long Island lab dubbed ‘Dog Vinci’ shows off painting stroke:
A Sao Paolo trademark*?
So, the future of the Euro industry lies in a “Vive la France”. That’s it. Is that all your argument?
Don’t be mistaken, there will be no freeway fwd without cooperation.
Fr will have to admits itself that, when it comes to aerospace, they are simply not mature enough to cooperate at the level the Eu partners are expecting. Neuron was an industrial therapy. I am not sure that there will be another one offered for free. If not, MD will have to deal with non-EU countries for partnership. Something that they are not quite ready to do at the level needed for a fighter jet IMOHO (MMRCA)…
Nine more Aermacchi M-346 advanced jet trainers for Italy
Italy has placed a follow-on order worth €300 million ($336 million) for an additional nine Aermacchi M-346 advanced jet trainers.
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The contract also includes logistics support and a further, unspecified development effort for a wider integrated training system. The latter includes the digital training aids and simulators located at Lecce-Galatina air base.
A direct consequence of the UAE Typhoon order?
Source:
FlightGlobal.com