A gen 4 tries to exploit its strengths – speed and maneuver.

This is not true*. Stealth does not impart restrictions in maniability in any of the 5th gen fighter. Otherwise, a souped-up 117 would have made it through long ago. Those who have seen the famous Rafale Vs Raptor video can’t say such. The acceleration and angular rate of the Raptor in that video are truly phenomenal and nowhere to be seen with another type.

All 5th gen design pay a great deal of attention to increase the field of maneuverability regarding the earlier generation. You can see clear traces of this philosophy in the the 22, the 35, the 18E (not really 5 but designed to be as 5th as eco/delay were acceptable), the PakFa, the KFX, the Japanese design or the J20.

It’s a trend. Not an illusion.

Then that the USAF/USMC/USN does not want to unveil their recipe does not make it a fail or a legend.

*speed is more debatable

Too much PS to say anything. But the UAV is publicized as a tandem wings design.

Please, humbly admit to yourself that you don’t have a clue how they are designed (F22 inlets).

Yes. Drag is the most important thing in a turn. Andraxxus repeatedly monstrates it with his calculation without recognizing it. It’s not about Wing area (it has never been) or a vaguely mentioned Coefficient of lift (which one? Airfoils section or total lift coefficient of the airplane?).

Those still remains valid to compare the perfs of something like a redbull racer with another one. But not for a Fighter jet with advanced aerodynamics.

Wilbur and Orville now stand in the Pantheon (with their brother Kutta). Modern aerodynamics are no more WYSIWYG.

Active aerodynamics ctrl is the new Bling. I have been preaching that for so long that I am still amazed to read pages of slide rules demonstration dealing with Wing loading, wing area, Cl (of what ? Who know the wing section of the F35 and that of its Fuselage ?!!) and all the like that still seems so popular here.

Please stop it. You’re killing me.

Everybody in the industry has his feet deep wet into the art nowadays: The Russians, The US (LM, Boeing, Northrop) and now the UK.

So I will understand and remains patient if that thread was written in french that some of you still have that kind of archaism in mind and pursue such discussions from another age. But we are here on an English forum… So, PLEASE, refrains and lets move on.

If you don’t get the F35 as a concept, it does not mean that the Thousands of people that have worked on it are no more capable than you. If you think so you shld consult asap.

F35 bashing to find a new life in literature?

[The novel] Ghost Fleet imagines a war that begins with the Littoral Combat Ship and F-35 and ends with the United States relying on a reserve fleet of older, but more reliable, weapons moored near San Francisco.
[…]
In the novel, China kicks off its assault on the United States with an epic redo of Pearl Harbor. Faced with a surprise attack, Washington’s fleet of fancy Littoral Combat Ships and hangars full of F-35s can’t fight off Hainan’s troops.

I fall asleep after the pitch.

Source:
reuters.com

If order it is, it might not be only from the Middle-East.