Weeeeeell. As I understand it, once the Whirlwind had reached the end of its useful life, it was used for crash rescue training. Obviously not good for the airframe. However, the remains pushed down a slope at the edge of the airfield, with the wings cut off and pushed down alongside the fuselage.
When a local swimming pool was built, the soil excavated was dumped on the Whirly, and that’s the last that was seen of it.
Unfortunately it is worse than that. We are planning to try and have a looksee but it sounds very unlikely anything useful is there and the location is a bit ‘fluid’ and possibly built on. The engines were whipped off went to an ATC unit (one was used for rotor blade testing IIRC) and both scrapped….pity. The rest was probably burnt and buried.
Hi all
I was just dreaming this afternoon while peeling the spuds for dinner tonight about, limitless funds, unbuilt projects, sunny days at OW and concluded that if I had all the above what a wonderful thing a replica Miles Master I would be.
So, assuming limitless funds etc how difficult would it be to produce one?
Do the drawings still exist for instance, how diificult would it be to source a Kestrel? Is the construction method now lost to history? what glue would be used and is there a modern substitute?
All ‘Pie-in-the-sky’ stuff but just think, Lovely Summers afternoon, Old Warden, Kestrel powered monoplane curving round the bend.
Well, it’s not a bad dream is it??
Cheers
AndyPS It’s sounds like an infinitely more practical use of funds than some of the other non starters I’ve seen posted here lately.
Laudible dream this one.A group based in Wallingford used to have loads of Master stuff including a wing.
Lovely aircraft which taught many pilots their advanced gunnery and fighter skills.
Hope they don’t leave the Pucara outside too long! Did not do my nose section much good!
It is outstanding value – got mine for $44.99 from Wal-Mart . I have one mounted on the wall in my living room as a kind of 3-D painting. Have bought several of the 21st Century series in the last few years – Stuka, P-47, FW-190. Can’t beat them for the price at that scale. They are essentially built as kids toys so don’t expect champonship winning quality, but for the price you can’t beat them. I’ve had the Stuka in my office for 3 years and lost count of the number of compliments I’ve had on it, and amazement when I share the price I paid for it.
I wonder if Canadian Wal-Marts have it?
The ‘AERO’ on the tyre is due to it being made by Palmer Aero (hence a PA inspection stamp).
AH2184’s vary by having /1 & /2 versions. In my collection (how sad is this, I have about 6 Spit tailwheels):
AH2184/1 are aluminum and the earliest
AH2184/2 are mag alloy with an aluminum inner plate (presumably as it is stronger/more scratch resistant than mag alloy, or maybe to raise the electro conductivity* to the same level as a aluminum)
Later /2’s have a small rim on the outerpart of each wheel (about 1/8th inch).
*Wheels and particularly tail wheels are intrinsic parts of lightning conductivity.
The number for a Spitt tail wheel is AH2184. I was surprised that the Dominie and Rapide were fitted with a wheel that was identical to a Spitty (including tyre size) bar the part number. As Dave’s reference material is the same as mine (and ‘pucker’) then I have learnt something!!
Dan, this is the bloke: Graham West, 3a High Street, Amblecote, Stourbridge, DY8 4BX – [email]graham@gwesty.freeserve.co.uk[/email]
His clocks are 7″ replicas (As Damien said, that’s pretty small) of the ops room clock at RAF Uxbridge, mounted on a wooden base with a brass bezel. £19.95 + £2.00 p&p UK (£4.95 overseas).
Since he’s a Flypast advertiser I’m sure that Key won’t mind the plug.
Please let me know how nice they are as I would like one if it is nice!
Dave
Thanks for the story. We are always interested in hearing stories from people who worked at Woodley for Phillips & Powis, Miles or Handley Page.
Lots of ex-employees come to visit us, but I am sure that not all of them want to talk about their experiences, which is sad.
Dave, I have a bomb lug from a Hermann that was dropped on Woodley, it is marked UXB, so I will need to see if I can get any more history!! It came from a bomb disposal chap’s collection.
Good eclectic mix there chaps & chappesses!!
Some of you (Dan particularly) appear to have my library too!
Anyone interested in the BoB should read Geoffrey Wellum’s First Light – fantastic account a superb writer.
I really should check things before I post. The Rotol manual will tell you all you need to know but if I had looked at my Hurri Mk.II manual (AP 1564B Vol 1) I would have noticed, in Section 5 Removal and Assembly Operations, the following.
8. Removal of spinner (Rotol type).- The spinner shell is secured by six lock pins to the back plate and may be removed by turning the six lock pins to the unlocked position and withdrawing the spinner forwards. The flexible ring may be removed from the back plate by unlocking and removing six nuts.
I’m not sure if that helps!
Anne
That should help Dave (need lots of WD40 and probably need to make the correct size flat screwdriver fitting (from memory about 3/4 inch). The Rotol manual would be mighty useful for stripping the prop hub (not getting the spinner off) though.
I’m (for the 2nd time) reading Roger Freeman’s “Mighty Eigth War Diary”
What is ‘Gunner’ about – WWII air gunners?
Yep…it has photos of gunner stations intermingled with stories by Vets. My kind of book lots of phots and words by those who were there.
Lovely aircraft the Master. I would love to see one in the air….especially in formation with a Mk1 Hurricane and a Mk1 Spitfire!!
Interesting thread to be revived. If I had an airworthy spit, I would not want to put live guns in my Spitfire! Here are a few reasons to pop this in the not worth the bother category:-
1. Finding 8 live brownings very expensive.
2. Getting a licence to have 1 let alone 8 MGs is impossible for the private individual
3. Airworthy aircraft tend to have the extraneous weight of weapons systems (pipework, connectors etc) stripped out.
4. The wings of a static aircraft would (unless the rivets were recent) probably open up as the rivets gave way. Old rivets end up with internal out corrosion.
5. Cost versus benefit.
6. risk assessments, health & safety, poor media attention etc etc
there’s 6 to be getting on with. A simulation would be much more easier.
I am hoping to set up an air rig on a spade grip gun button to give people the feel of what firing eight guns felt like in a cockpit.
regards
Canada TD
Simple answer……….Hawker Hunter F1 (without airbrake, sabrinas and knotch in wing and other stuff to make it fly proper!) – very pure, very pretty, very range limited!
Fantastic phots old chap! I was living in Stow-on-the-Wold at the time and cycled to LR just after the filming stopped. There was a lovely silver access panel lying by the taxiway. I could not carry it on my bike! And my Dad wouldn’t help me in the car 🙁 Oh well.
Anyway, a few years later, I acquired a 500 lb bomb prop from one of the prop guys. It had been dropped from a B25 during filming twice! Apparently they used sand as ballast, when the a/c took off the sand went to the back of the bomb and it fell tail first!! So they used concrete in the nose instead